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Saturday morning here in Oz and I thought I'd check out Paul's site. Wow! Good to see the guestbook come alive. Hope that annoying Rangdo doesn't find it...and great to see Paul (500 games) Raymond coming full on to the cause. I never criticised him before, always admired and respected him, although have never met him. I was initially angry at the idea of AFC Wimbledon as I too saw it as giving up but once again the passion of the Dons fans is winning me over. But I insist that we do not quit on the fight to stop MK happening - there are too many flaws in the Commissions report and I don't believe it is over by a long way. Good to see we have an alternaitve guestbook Paul,WTID and AFCWTID
the Wizard of Oz (flannel@ozemail.com.au)
Gosford, NSW Australia - Friday, June 14, 2002 at 14:37:26 (PDT)
Like Paul if anyone had any doubts by what we are trying to achieve then last night must have brought it home, the passion, the commitment the pure emotion thatwas in that room, there is a long way to go but with the club now 100% commited and loyalm Wimbledon fans there is no way we will fail bring on AFC Wimbledon, the only low point for me last night was the owner of MK City you have got to feel for that guy and for what Koppel has done to him, anyone who supports MK Dons are, in my mind just as guilty of the murder of MK City as Koppel is
Wibbly Don
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 05:13:08 (PDT)
Great to see you there last night Paul. I got a lift from another midlands Womble supporter and arrived 15 mins late. I hope our little Email chat was a little part of your decision to give your much needed energies into AFCW. For me it wouldn't be the same if people like you were not there.
Leamington Pete (Pete Davis) (naughtyjedi@hotmail.com)
Leamington, uk - Friday, June 14, 2002 at 02:43:44 (PDT)
No worries Grazy - good to see you as well
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, June 14, 2002 at 01:48:37 (PDT)
Sorry Paul, hope you didn't mind me posting that ! Great to see you last night mate :-)
Grazy (volunteer@wisa.org.uk)
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 01:27:54 (PDT)
URGENTLY NEEDED - Someone to manage a Task already set up. Deadline end of today. Internet based. Contact volunteer@wisa.org.uk
Grazy
WISA Task-Master-Geezer
Grazy (volunteer@wisa.org.uk)
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 01:27:10 (PDT)
WD - Cheers mate it will be the fans that make this side. Lets just get Monday out the way first.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 23:23:00 (PDT)
Paul, sorry if this seems like a sly dig mate, it aint, but it's good to have you back. It's gonna be hard and I I'm gonna do my best to get at Koppel for years to come, but as fans we've gotta stand united, as one. Role on AFC Wimbledon.
Wandsworth Don (mattbtpl@aol.com)
I expect to see at least 600 in a row :-), - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:53:18 (PDT)
Paul - tonight was just awsome - glad you're gonna be part of it - all you webmasters are gonna be busy over the next few weeks, redesigning to get the AF infront and the FC deleated from behind WIMBLEDON ;-) Roll on Monday so that we can really start to celebrate.
Neil (as below)
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:58:42 (PDT)
Hi Neil - Sorry was doing a sly post at work but I think at the time I still wasn't convinced if I wanted to be part of the big journey :) But I think tonight finally pushed me over the edge and I want to be involved only thing I will add is that if I start a long run again someone please shoot me one run of 500 games is enough in a lifetime :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:41:47 (PDT)
Paul - hope you meant where 'we' will be playing next year, not 'they'. Time for us ALL to move on and leave the crap of last season behind - I can see you starting another mamoth run of unbroken home and away matches. Terry Eames Yellow and Blue army ....AFC Wimbledon will rock!!!
neil (neil_presland@hotmail.com)
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:26:04 (PDT)
Just a quick reminder that the Dons Trust SGM tonight 7:30 kick off at St Georges Community Centre in Wimbledon tonight main item is about Dons Trust and Financial support for AFC Wimbledon but also should be an update on AFC Wimbledon finances and where they may play next season.
Paul Raymond (paul@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 08:27:16 (PDT)
If people turn up first game of season(if its at selhurst)to support there team are people saying they are going to get there heads punched?
stewomble4 (stewomble4@aol.com)
England - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 07:49:31 (PDT)
Lads don't rise to these dickheads. People who want to go to MK used to really annoy me but I realse now that we're better off without them. Let them go to MK, they won't be missed. They're obviously not very bright and are just the sort of twats Koppel depends on! Fuck Milton Keynes FC.
Nick P
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 05:32:42 (PDT)
so another Loyal Don - you have 2 mates called "not telling " and "why" and you also have 3 other mates going to MK called what? "say nothing" who's that" and "can't speak" perhaps? it is obvious that you are on a wind up - but as far as I am concerned you are welcome to the team that we once idolised you might even make some new friends from MK "roundabout" "shopping centre" and "faceless"
Hutch
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 03:59:44 (PDT)
will you be supporting Palace on sat 19 Oct. Nice day out at Milton Keynes ?
northernsouler
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 03:48:55 (PDT)
AFC Wimbledon is a way to get football back in WImbledon. Its going to take a lotta work. Then when WFC fails to establish itself in Milton Keynes IF it does then we can win our original club back. But don't be suprised to see WFCltd languishing towards the bottom of Division 3 in a couple of years. And AFC in Ryman prem or conference. It will take years for 25000 fans to get behind Wimbledon in Milton Keynes, if in fact it ever does. Don't believe the lies!
Leamington Pete (Pete Davis) (naughtyjedi@hotmail.com)
Leamington, UK - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 02:56:38 (PDT)
what exactly are you a fan of or supporting? The murder of our club, of football? It aint Wimbledon if it's in Milton keynes, simple as. It aint a question of being lazy, it's about not supporting a club, that is no longer mine.
Wandsworth Don (mattbtpl@aol.com)
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 16:05:30 (PDT)
So six people are going to MK and calling themselves Wimbledon fans? Fine, go ahead. What puzzles me is why you hide your names on here, and yet will be happy to be very publicly identified come August.
kris (chair@wisa.org.uk)
Croydon, - Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 15:14:27 (PDT)
Hutch - Can i have some of the drugs you are on please. Not telling and Why are two different people - and im a third person going to MK. Also we have another three mates who are going. So we say everyone get off your lazy butts and go to MK to follow your team.
another loyal fan
england - Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:53:33 (PDT)
Should point out that WISA have looked at more than one site within the SW19 area. Hardly the sign of an organisation with romantic ideals.
REPD (repd@repd.net)
Back in SM4, - Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:39:31 (PDT)
Not Telling - it is so obvious that you and "why" are the same person - your posts are almost identical for a start - but consider this on your way to MK next season, will the players really appreciate you making the effort? will they fuck! the fact that all but one of them walked off heads down last game of the season said so much, the fact that none of them - even the out of contract players ever gave any indication that what was/has happened is wrong, the players didn't give a toss about the fans, the club have proven that they don't give a toss and I think as much as I loved WFC I can certainly live without that kind of treatment, maybe you don't know when your being pissed on from a great height.
Hutch
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 09:12:17 (PDT)
Criticism of WISA in my opinion is bang out of order. In general a lot of people expect a minority to do everything for them (me included) and for everything to fall into place. They've done more for us than anyone could have, if you want things done and have ideas then you all know the web site, let them know and try and do something as opposed to just avin a pop. Regards
Wandsworth Don (mattbtpl@aol.com)
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 08:13:19 (PDT)
I think it's a bit harsh to criticise WISA for setting their collective hearts on Plough Lane. After all - that would be one more site in Merton than WFC Ltd considered.
Honest Al
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 06:00:26 (PDT)
Northernsouler - all the people you mentioned are responsible. Many Dons supporters did continue the campaign to get us out of SP, but admittedly there were plenty of apathetic souls who didn't. Merton Council also have to accept some blame. Although they came onside recently, the club was used as a political football to appease the NIMBYs and win votes. Sam and the Nog's involvement goes without saying. Lastly the Football League and FA are also responsible for not having the backbone to stick by their views and crush the whole thing.
Edinburgh Don
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 05:17:52 (PDT)
Anyone who doubts that the name will change - look at Livingston FC. I don't see any reference to Meadowbank/Ferranti Thistle in there. Of course the name will change.
Edinburgh Don
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 05:14:22 (PDT)
Who will history show as the REAL villans of the sell-out of WFC ? Sam Hammam for selling PL. The fans, YES, you lot for not pressing to move out of SP ? The Norwegians for getting their way ?
northernsouler - mental patient from selhurst park
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 04:15:29 (PDT)
Don't think certain people are being very fair. Let people make their own mind up. I don't think it's Wisas' fault that we are in this position, but I agree with the point that they relied too heavily on getting Plough Lane. Was any other place considered at all? Just wondering - it's not a condemnation
Robert Paulson
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 03:25:03 (PDT)
Because it is Milton Keynes' Football Club, or it will be once it's been moved there. Does anyone seriously believe that a name change isn't on the agenda... not today, not for a season or two, but inorder to market their league position to the locals they will HAVE to change the name. What defines a football club? Is it the name of the company which owns it? is it the colours they play in, is it the players, the manager, the stadium they play in, or is it the location where they are based? Wimbledon Football Club can only exist within spitting distance of Wimbledon. Do people really believe that the club is having to go to Milton Keynes in order to survive? Anyone who thinks that there are no other options has obviously done zero research. They are lying to us all, Wimbledon's football club (ie the club that represents Wimbledon) cannot be based away from Wimbledon. That is what I call a 'stark fact'. Read the FA Commissions report and tell me that you honestly believe that Dons fans haven't been royally stitched up.
PeterB (not affraid to tell people) (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 01:41:49 (PDT)
Why do you call it MKFC? You do realise that, however much you don't want to believe it, the Football Club will be exactly the same, barring location. All you lot are crying about is having to get off your arse on a Saturday to travel to watch your team. You disgust me. As a long-standing supporter of this football club, I for one will continue supporting MY team. Alright so you're against it, but I'm not afraid to say that I couldn't care less what you think, it's MY decision and I don't have to explain myself to anyone, least of all a bunch of pathetic losers, who maintain that they would rather have seen the club die than go to MK. Bollocks. Defeatist bollocks.
someone else as well as the person signing in as why
Not telling
Wombledon - Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:42:03 (PDT)
Hi can the person signing in as WHY please email me or go through Paul Raymond. his got something to tell you on my behalf.
Philrocknr@aol.com
Loyal Fan
Surrey - Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:37:41 (PDT)
BW - when did I write that? Bloody hell..
REPD (repd@repd.net)
Phibsborough, Dublin Ireland - Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:09:03 (PDT)
"Secondly, we must find a cohesive plan that everyone can agree to. Do we try and take WFC (RIP) back? Do we form "Real WFC"? Whatever, we need as many people onside as possible. It's too hard for people to walk away, I did try it but as said above, it's in my blood too much. The coming weeks and months are critical, but remember that we have right on our side. We always did, and there's a part of me that still makes me believe we still will. The victors are ultimately losers, as somebody apart from me may have once said."
Brighton Womble
From the words of REPD. We're doing both mate., - Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 07:18:54 (PDT)
People having the right to their own opinions: Yes they can, but if I think they are wrong I will say so, and absolutely reserve the right to think less of them. If people support MKFC then I will think that they are suckers, I will tell them that they are wrong to go to Milton Keynes, and I will explain why AFC-Wimbledon (Wimbledon's FC) is where they should be. There's no hypocracy in that. People are free to make the wrong decision, but it has consequences (ie being told that it's wrong).
PeterB (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 06:50:01 (PDT)
Good point Sean. Will clubs 'doing a Wimbledon' be as common in 5 years time as players 'doing a Bosman' now? Another thing; Celtic & Rangers to join Premiership within a couple of years. Remember a year ago, evereyone saying 'it'll never happen' about us moving, and all Football authorities saying it won't be allowed. They are saying that now but that MKFC V Celtic fixture is moving ever closer as the suited bastards ruin our game for good.
Edinburgh Don
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 05:03:16 (PDT)
Martin D - "You insist on having your opinion and yet don't allow others theirs". Okay - "Hello Kettle? this is pot - YOU'RE BLACK"
Who?
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 03:36:53 (PDT)
Personally I think there is something worth fighting for and something for football fans around the country to fight against. Its called the "wimbledon precedent" which in years to come could become as well know as the bosman in causing major change in the game.
For that reason I shall continue fighting the cowardly decision and I have no hesitation in saying I want to see no wimbledon fans get on a train, coach , aeorplane, limo or car to see that thing in Milton keynes. Whatever it is it certainly isnt the football Club I have supported for 23 years. I shall do all I can to ensure if fails if ultimatley it can't be stopped for those that go to my mind you would be like a prostitues client cos thats what "Wimbledon" has become presumably when MK doesnt work and they move onto the next unique deserving cause you will go, cos once you bring franchising in you cant stop it!!!!
Sean Fox (seanphilfox@aol.com)
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 00:10:31 (PDT)
Well said ED, Loyal Fan Like Paul many of us have supported Wimbledon FC for many years but the time span is irrelevant, its the commitment and passion for your local team, Sam shafted us and Koppel has taken it to another dimension and I like many Dons fans have enough of supporting his greed and as ED was saying that brochure is pure bollox, Koppel may have taken my team but he has not taken my principles or spirit and that is why I and many more will be supporting AFC Wimbledon whilst fighting for our Name, Crest and History all of which belong to Merton and Wimbledon fans not MKFC
Wibbly Don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:34:37 (PDT)
Got Koppell's "Unique solution" booklet. What a load of toss. It appears that this was the brochure presented to the arbitration and/or comission panels? If so, their acceptance of this scheme is made even more repulsive. This glossy rag had lots of claims of the dire financial state of the club stated as the reason why they had to move. All it proves is that he has failed in his running of the club. It's obvious he wouldn't have dared to put the club into the hands of administrators (which I would have much preferred; QPR, Palace, Millwall all coming out stronger from administration) because it would have opened the books to scrutiny. His creative accountancy would have been revealed and also the amatuers that have been running the club and lining their pockets with their own little fiddles would also be rooted out. Go to MK if you want, but just be aware that you are funding someone who has shafted all of us and is laughing his flabby arse off at you, as you hand over your season ticket dosh.
Edinburgh Don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:16:33 (PDT)
Interesting comments by Ralph Malph but very true. Also interesting comment by `In My Opinion.` All this what has been happening has made me think about giving up football all together.
Loyal Fan
Japan/South Korea - Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:03:05 (PDT)
To common sense - B*******. Why dont you give up your job because we say so, just like the Club shop people were told to give theirs up. Also the people who worked in the club shop have supported the teams for many years before alot of the current fans started following the Dons. Also one in particular - (it doesnt take a brain surgeon to work out who), went to over 500 hundred games on the trot. i wonder how many fans will or have ever reached that. How many fans travel midweek to places such as Newcastle, Middlesborough
Plymouth, Cardiff, Blackburn, Liverpool, Everton etc etc.
If all football fans at the old Wimbledon were as loyal as the person im talking about and Michael T, Football Clubs would be in a much healthier financial state.
i have finished yet......
loyal fan
japan/south korea - Monday, June 10, 2002 at 13:30:28 (PDT)
Some postings getting quite heated.It seems to me that taking some of these comments to the next stage would mean not far off threatening anyone who dared to turn up at MK? Very sad, if anyone wants to go surely that's their choice whether you agree with it or not.As some individuals have gone at great lengths on this site to say that the club wouldn't be there too long so what does it all matter if a few people do go.Me, I've just about got disillusioned with just about everything concerning football at the moment and will most probably watch my local Doc Martens team next season.
wiltshire don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 13:04:36 (PDT)
Apologies Paul, probably misunderstood your comment I thought that you were condoning the fact that we should have respect for anyone who will go to MK and yes it is nice to see the guestbook lively again
Wunderin Don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 12:07:59 (PDT)
Good to see the guestbook back in action again :) - Wunderin Don I sorry but I dont understand why that comment has been aimed at me could you please explain? - Martin D cheers for the comment yep i'm a lot better now thanks.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, June 10, 2002 at 11:28:43 (PDT)
Bloody hell, some right crap on here. Right then, here goes : Plough Lane was only made unachievable because MKFC wanted to make it unachievable. FACT. Did you know that Koppout was trying to get various companies to pull out over it? See, it WOULD have been achievable. Blaming WISA for it? I'm in a public area here so I really cannot express what I think about that comment. Suffice to say, without WISA you would have seen Koppout go up 70 miles in August 2001. And you wouldn't have had a right to complain at all. "Defeatist bollocks"? Yeah, right. So setting up a new club (a POSITIVE thing) is accepting defeat? What do you suggest we do? Keep fighting and fighting until we become permanently demoralised? THAT is what Koppout wants, we offended him by challenging him, and he's so nasty that he would think nothing of it. Finally, and I am not afraid to say this, anyone who follows MKFC up to MK is a sad loser. They are proving to the world that they have no soul, no morals, no self respect, nosense of decency. They are only doing it out of blind loyalty and an attempt to prove to somebody that they are "true" fans. You are not true fans. You are sheep. You are puppets. And you will be treated with as much derision and well aimed venom as Koppout and the rest of the corrupt tossers.
REPD (repd@repd.net)
Phibsboro, , Dublin Ireland - Monday, June 10, 2002 at 10:17:27 (PDT)
Dear "Why?", Why can't you post under your real name, or are you too cowardly? Do you not understand how stupid your "the football club will be exactly the same, barring location" statement sounds? As for not having to explain your decision to anyone, why are you on here explaining your decision then? Go to Milton Keynes, see if we care. WE'RE better off without you. You are the loser. Some day soon you will look around you in the empty soulless stadium you think is such a great idea and wonder where all your friends are and what has become of that wonderful unique little team you once loved. And how is setting up a new local club while we wait for the inevitable failure of MKFC "defeatist bollocks"? You insist on having your opinion and yet don't allow others theirs. I would bet a year's wages that you have some sort of vested interest in the current setup of MKFC. Finally, tell me what is the point of the football pyramid system in England if a town can purchase a league position?
Martin D (interestingdrug@hotmail.com)
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 06:18:22 (PDT)
Why do you call it MKFC? You do realise that, however much you don't want to believe it, the Football Club will be exactly the same, barring location. All you lot are crying about is having to get off your arse on a Saturday to travel to watch your team. You disgust me. As a long-standing supporter of this football club, I for one will continue supporting MY team. Alright so you're against it, but I'm not afraid to say that I couldn't care less what you think, it's MY decision and I don't have to explain myself to anyone, least of all a bunch of pathetic losers, who maintain that they would rather have seen the club die than go to MK. Bollocks. Defeatist bollocks.
Why
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 06:04:51 (PDT)
Martin D, well said, I find it amazing in the light of what has happened, that some Wimbledon supporters will still travel to MKFC and that they are slagging of WISA, I would just like to thank WISA and the Trust for all that they have done in the past and what they have achieved to date and there efforts in rebuilding a football team within the community, bring on AFC WIMBLEDON
Wibbly Don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 06:02:42 (PDT)
Ralphy, I go along with what you are saying but IMHO I think that both parties are as bad as each other, FA total bottle case Adam Crozier should be asked to resign on his return from his jolly to Japan, as for Koppel complete liar with no respect for football or football fans
Wibbly Don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 05:56:41 (PDT)
WIMBLEDON FAIR 22ND JUNE 1o'clock to 5 o'clock come along and support the Trust and AFC Wimbledon, offer your support and as rumour has it, MKFC also have a stall at the event
Wibbly Don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 05:51:51 (PDT)
Having taken time time to let the decision sink in I have to say this - I now think this whole problem lies at the feet of the FA, they are ultimately responsible for this scandal. They sanctioned the move to Selhurst as 'tempoarary' but when did they ever press the club to find a permanent home???? They didn't to my knowledge, they left us high and dry, that is why IMHO they let the move be sanctioned, because they had fcuked it up over the last 11 years. BTW in no way am I defending the current 'owners' but I think the FA has even more to answer for than just the decision.
Ralph Malph
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 03:28:22 (PDT)
To the person signed "In my opinoin": Yours is the worst post I have ever seen on this guestbook. To blame WISA for the current situation is not only wrong, but a kick in the bollocks to all the good honest people who tried to save this football club. It is bad enough that some people criticise other hard-working peoples' actions whilst they do nothing themselves, but to put the boot in now that we have LOST is truly pathetic. The only thing you are right about is that the club was dead ANYWAY whatever the corrupt commission decided, but if the FA had had any bollocks and stood up for what they profess to believe (i.e. that franchising is wrong) then at least it would have been obvious that the owners killed the club (through administration then liquidation) Yes, I have read the commission report and it is full of holes. How on earth can the commission state in a list headed "stark facts that make WFC unique" the fact that MK "deserves" OUR football club? It is clearly nonsense.
Martin D (Paul, I hope you're feeling better?)
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 02:53:23 (PDT)
WISA - you've got what you wanted. If you hadn't put so much stock in trying to acheive the unacheivable by trying to prove that PL was feasible and actually looked elsewhere AS WELL, then we wouldn't be in this mess. It boils down to this ; we move - we're dead, we don't move - we're dead. Shit man that's it - you've done it, the club's dead. Have any of you READ the commissions report? I don't care what you say, the club would've died anyway, so why worry
In My Opinoin
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 01:40:05 (PDT)
Mr Raymond and Loyal fan, my statement still stands, nobody who supports MKFC deserves any respect, that is the attitude that made the fight against MK even more difficult, I too have been a supporter of Wimbledon FC for many years as far back as non-league and it makes me sick that you should even request that we respect the people who assisted and are still assisting with the murder of what was my club, what club shop!! there is no club,
wunderin Don
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 00:48:55 (PDT)
oh...and there have been NO shop jobs available in wimbledon over the past year?
common sense
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 15:14:26 (PDT)
Wandurin Don, i was not saying that i am personally going to go to MK, i was referring to SOMEONE ELSE. I have supported the dons for over 19 years and i am just as upset as the rest of you. i do not appreciate sarcy comments as to who my allegiance lies with.
All those who continue to slag the club shop staff off, please stop - they have bills to pay as well so leave them alone or F*** OFF U DOZY CRETINS.
loyal fan
surrey, england - Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 14:22:01 (PDT)
I thought, according to Koppel,the reason for going to MK was to give the club a future. I am therefore confused as to why I have read Ainsworth is still going because the club can't afford he wages ( surely on these huge crowds that according to Koppel are going to go in MK the club will be easily able to afford such wages!!!).If the intention is to take the club forward then shouldn't players like Ainsworth be re-signed. I have written to Koppel asking this very point so I would be interested in his reply( if I ever get one).
wiltshire don
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 02:49:08 (PDT)
To the last person who posted I think that most fans almost see the current WFC as an irrelevance and if people elect to follow the club thats up to them.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 02:13:14 (PDT)
Loyal Fan,( what team do you support it certainly wasn't Wimbledon) you have just made a huge contradictory statement in your last posting, how can you be a Wimbledon Supporter and STILL want to travel to MK unless it is to trash the place and why should I respect anyone who STILL supports what they have done to my club, FFS where have you been the last 10 months, Wimbledon FC is DEAD, long live AFC Wimbledon
Wunderin Don
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 02:11:03 (PDT)
Now we have had time for the Milton Keynes decision to sink in, may i take this opprtunity to ask all Wimbledon fans to respect the opinions of those who are still willing to travel to MK. i have just had a long conversation with someone who is cotemplating travelling to MK.
Thats all.
LOYAL FAN (Philrocknr@aol.com)
Surrey, England - Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 17:39:25 (PDT)
Mitcham Carnival Saturday 8th June ( tomorrow ) come along and give your support to the Dons Trust and AFC Wimbledon 1pm - 5pm
Wibbly Don
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:05:17 (PDT)
sean, that sheff wed game was my 2nd, 1st was 2 weeks previous against swindon, strange how until '91 our lives followed a similar path yet we didn't meet til i happened to walk in the wibbas 2002, thanks koppel, if you've done nothing else, at least i've belatedly caught up with friends i should have got to know better years ago.
paul r you've gone quiet pal, is everything o.k. with you.
finally, is it anyone on here who's running the mkfc stall at mitcham carnival.
dolfan (nosey aint ya, oh ok, peach_ian@hotmail.com)
cannock, staffs england - Friday, June 07, 2002 at 00:40:53 (PDT)
NEW NON league Wimbledon must be the goal. No-one goes to MK!!
mark leadon (markleadon@yahoo.co.uk)
harlow, essex UK - Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 14:30:49 (PDT)
Few ideas for protests
1. England start their qualifying campaign for the European Championships in September. Any supporters attending the home games to take aong one or two large banners used in the vigil to be hung up in front of the nearest cameras - Exposure all over the world.
2. Probably already thought of by WISA. Contact all indpendent supporters clubs and ask them to publish a letter in their publications/fanzines explaining the situation and encouraging supporters to boycott MKDons in Milton Keynes and if they are willing their own home games as well.
3. Contact all 1st Division clubs and ask if they would be willing to publish the same letter in their offical match day programmes. Suspect Burnley would be only to happy to oblige.
4. When draws for cup competitions have been made contact the relevant clubs and ask them to publish the letter in their programmes.
5. Organise a protest that will disrupt work at the National Hockey Stadium that is anything to do with MKDons.
6. Organise a protest once building work starts on the new stadium (chaining ourselves to bulldozers etc)
I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that could be added to the list, there might even be something WISA hasn't even thought of yet
SUPPORT AFC WIMBLEDON, THE REAL WIMBLEDON FOOTBALL CLUB
Yorkshire Womble (rhofield@tiscali.co.uk)
Wakefield, West Yorkshire UK - Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:10:53 (PDT)
Having communicated with Paul (Bing) Crosby I hear you are up for a mad weekend in Southport in July supporting the mighty Queen of the South. I am trying to persuade a few fellow Dons to make the trip.
Basingstoke Don (callum_watson@hotmail.com)
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 07:37:12 (PDT)
So its over 23 years I first went to Wimbledon V Sheff Wednesday in 1979, nearly lost the CLub three times before this time but always thought we would pull through cos we always did. Shame that football is now all about money and not supporters the statistics speak for themselves really dont they: anyone met a Wimbledon supporter who supported the move? Got my prospectus for Mr Koppels new toy yesterday and if I didnt feel bad enuff had to look at phot's of a palce where I spent 11 happy years looking like a burnt out shell. Those photos in themselves speak volumes for what Koppel really thinks of Wimbledon supporters to me. God I hate him for what he has done to our club. I will take no greater revenge than to hop that in 2005 we get drawn away to Milton Keynes Dons in the FA Cup third round where a historic victory will be achieved on the 30th aniversary of the start of it all. Therafter I shall wait for the inevitable return to the League of Wimbleon. Mr Koppel get your filthy hands off our history and our memories and greats you are not worthy of them.
Sean Fox (seanphilfox@aol.com)
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 13:29:06 (PDT)
ah crap. wisa and w&ww down again.
mjs
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 12:43:54 (PDT)
Contact points for AFC Wimbledon: email afc@wisa.org.uk and telephone 020 8540 7396
Laurence (afc@cool-net.co.uk)
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 11:02:44 (PDT)
Hmmm, good sentiment BW and MD, but shouldn't someone tell Ronan "Five minutes" Warde?
A Sphincter says what?
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 08:23:11 (PDT)
Come on guys get your names onto the voluteers list of the Dons Trust Site, put your name forward send in your money and be in at the birth of AFC Wimbledon, Ralphy this is your oppertunity to have your say go for it
Wibbly Don
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 14:36:37 (PDT)
WANTED NOW! Supporters to assist in distributing leaflets at a VERY important greyhound meeting at Wimbledon Stadium tomorrow evening. It won't take much of your time, just a willingness to hand around 3500 leaflets out at the gates and then you can go to the pub. Contact Paul Farrance on 07775 631240 or flair_man@hotmail.com This is crucial to raising awareness of AFC Wimbledon. Thanks.
Kevin Rye
WISA Taskmaster (for a little bit longer), - Friday, May 31, 2002 at 10:22:14 (PDT)
Contact ivor@thedonstrust.org
Kevin Rye
- Friday, May 31, 2002 at 10:18:20 (PDT)
I wholeheartedly support Kev's comments below. Ralph, aren't you the bloke with the non-league club experience? If so, we could desperately do with your help. Please contact Ivor Heller, he's at the heart of the setting up of AFC Wimbledon. I don't want to post his number here, but visit his company at www.kpd.co.uk for contact details.
Martin D
- Friday, May 31, 2002 at 08:12:11 (PDT)
Don't know if it has been resolved yet but where are AFC Wimbledon going to play next season? I'm dying to know all the details as I couln't make the AGM. Mr Rye I totally agree with your last statement, we may have argued in the past but I'm right behind you. (in a non-perverse way!!!!)
Ralph Malph
- Friday, May 31, 2002 at 02:53:01 (PDT)
I hope to see you all at AFC Wimbledon next season. No more revenge, no more fighting, let's get back to what we love; supporting the Dons.
Kevin Rye (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Please. No recriminations, - Friday, May 31, 2002 at 02:16:39 (PDT)
I was not having a go at Paul. I have always seen Paul at every Dons match that I have been to. Even though from Leamington I think of the supporters like Paul who will be hurting just as much probably more than me. At the FA on Tuesday Paul's face popped into my mind in a flash as I thought of all the hurt this will cause us all. And I don't even know him. I just wanted to see his response because he has a website and its a voice!
Leamington Pete (Pete Davis) (naughtyjedi@hotmail.com)
Leamington, Warwickshire UK - Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 11:45:28 (PDT)
Rest in peace dear Wimbledon
Tor Bernhard Slaathaug (tor_bernhard.slaathaug@hoyre.no)
Tønsberg, Norway - Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 05:08:37 (PDT)
Hi Martin, I wont be at the meeting tonight currently under the weather and by the end of the working day feeling drained. I'm sure we will meet up soon for a social drink. :) Think your words about how you are feeling sum it up for most of us.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 04:15:42 (PDT)
Paul, I forgot to say are you coming along tonight? WISA/DT need you more than ever. Now is the time to reunite. I might even buy you a drink :)
Martin D
- Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 03:38:04 (PDT)
Morning Paul. How are you feeling? (please don't take this the wrong way) Personally I feel like a loved one has died. Today's news about Roekke NOW willing to put £40m in (just about the figure that would have bought PL back and built a stadium) is a total disgrace, but I doubt the media will notice it.
Martin D
- Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 02:34:14 (PDT)
Evening all - Good to say that I'm a main topic of conversation again. I have updated the news section and as mentioned before people's posts get a lot more respect if people use there real names. - By the way Keyin Rye nice post.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 13:07:29 (PDT)
Nick P, whoever, you would of thought that Paul R and others were in the FA headquarters yesterday making up thier minds to vote for MK. We are all as stressed as everyone else. I spoke to Paul yesterday and he was as down in the dumps as me, and Nick you can vouch for speaking to me yesterday. I know your mad Nick but you should say the same to me as you are to Paul. You have always known my view on the MK and stuck by me. Which I am grateful, but why the slagging off on people who had no say on the desision. We got £25 a game for FUCK sake yet we would of done it for free. I never once agreed face to face with CK about MK and he would back me up on it. I never wanted to go to MK and I still think I am walking around in a daze. Nick and others, have you actually thought that PAul may find words hard to describe his, mine and other beloved club moving and having no chance of seeing a game whenever you want. If he was in the FA headquarters yeterday with a vote for MK then slag off to your hearts content. But he wasnt and you all know that. Why not channel your frustrations in the direction it should be shown at. CK and the FA!!!!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 09:27:36 (PDT)
Wimbledon Football Club died yesterday. I am not a fan of Milton Keynes FC (or whatever they decide to call it) It can never be the same there. And for any supporters who do go it will always be flawed and empty - if it survives at all. I am more determined than ever that Wimbledon Football Club will be re-started in Wimbledon. Football is in crisis. It is easier now than ever before to get a team into the league (if that's really what we want?) Let "fans" follow Koppel to MK if they like. It is their loss. They will miss out on something truly special. Aldershot have done it. Do you think their fans are superhuman? Do you think they are better, more committed, more numerous, more resourceful than us?
Martin D
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 07:15:09 (PDT)
RP, the whole point of moving is to tap into the football hungry masses of MK. how many will continue to support a team called Wimbledon? It will only be a matter of time before the club gets renamed. Will it still be the same club then?
cho
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 07:03:13 (PDT)
What if the FC is still Wimbledon, Yellow and Blue, with the same set up - are we not then arguing about moving 50 miles?
R P
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 06:33:41 (PDT)
Mr Rye that is so true. Stop all the bickering, it is futile and not needed. To pick up on a point by L Pete, I disagree that WFC (MK) will be the most hated. No-one cares about them and never have done. A few messages on the Big Tissue don't mean all football fans are angry. Sadly I know several who are happy to see a team move from London and they don't really give a stuff. Yes that annoy's me, but how many back page column inches did we get today? How many full page or double page spreads did we get? HARDLY ANY, can you believe it, I hate to say it but no-one other than ourselves and a small number from other teams really care, the apathy makes me want to vomit.
DC
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 05:13:13 (PDT)
It feels like I lost a close friend yesterday, and although I've woken up this morning feeling crap, I'm resolved to 1. Win the fight against the club and 2. If not, reform, re-engage and climb up the leagues again. We're all Wombles, we all care.
Kevin Rye
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 04:51:57 (PDT)
We are all upset, but having a go at Paul isn't going to change anything. As someone else said - can any of you having a go can lay claim to having seen a consecutive 500 games? No, thought not. Now is not the time to start the stupid "I'm a better fan than you game".
Edinburgh Don
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 04:39:17 (PDT)
I am sure for any Wimbledon supporter (especially those who were at the vigil/killing yesterday :^() this is a very confusing time. If Wimbledon fans want to watch Wimbledon in Milton Keynes we should let them. I don't try and stop Arsenal fans watch Arsenal. Wimbledon will be another club to me. They will however be the club I hate the most. There fans will be hated throughout football and they will always be seen as scum or inferior. I cannot wait to see the attendences as Wimbledon FC will be playing away games ALL SEASON as away fans even Grimsby and Rotherham will bring more. I may even go along once or twice just to spend 90mins berating the team and whoever bothers to turn out. I am however facinated to hear Mr. Raymonds comments on this matter.
Leamington Pete (naughtyjedi@hotmail.com)
Leamington, Warwickshire UK - Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 04:05:24 (PDT)
Will we see you working in Palace's shop then Paul?
DEC
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 03:51:19 (PDT)
No I won't be going to MK, but how Nick P can question Paul as a fan is a joke. I'm not happy like the rest of you but to have a go at PR is a laughable, it wasn't his decision to move WFC. I suggest these people grow up and take a look at themselves, then have a go at the people whose fault this is. No-one has the right to abuse any other individual. Just because people didn't stand up and shout does that make them less of a fan????? I dont think it does, if you do, that is your opinion, and to me it really doesn't matter. Paul as I have already said these people are not fit to lace your boots as a football fan so please ignore their juvenile postings because they come from small minded petty individuals.
DC
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 03:09:02 (PDT)
I think everyone should lay off Paul R. Anyone that knows him, knows he is Wimbledon through and through and if anyone thinks that he would go to MK then u dont know him!! As for u Danny Chambers, will u be going to MK?
Jamie
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 02:26:33 (PDT)
Yeah but Danny these people protested and screamed blue murder at Koppel till they were blue in the face. And Paul didn't. So they have every right.
Nick P
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 01:27:48 (PDT)
Paul you appear not to have noticed there was some news yesterday that needs announcing. Nice one to everyone who whined 'sit down and watch the game' 'it will never happen' I hope those words will always haunt you.
Nick P
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 01:25:36 (PDT)
My my my, that's what i love about WFC fans so many of them are really tough and hard. You fcuking losers, if you are going to slag Paul off at least have the decency to let him know who you are, cowards. How many of you went to over 500 consecutive games??????? People like you don't deserve a football club, if you have something to say at least put your name to it w**k**s. Paul keep your head up son most of these tw*ts will never have been to Plough Lane in their sorry little lives.
Danny Chambers
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 01:24:13 (PDT)
Presumptions!!!, it might not happen!!! how doe's reallity feel now PR but it was always known that you are pro MK, do the decent thing and remove the name of Plough Lane off your site, like Koppel you do not deserve any association with the names of Wimbledon FC or Plough Lane
Still Fighting
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 00:32:36 (PDT)
"presumptions" ???? FFS raymond say what you mean. scum.
df (df)
cv, cv cv - Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 20:26:42 (PDT)
Happy now you bunch of apathetic fuckwits?
cho
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 17:21:02 (PDT)
thought not! Loser
. (.)
., . . - Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 16:30:32 (PDT)
hands up all webmasters that were at the vigil today
. (.)
., . . - Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 16:24:53 (PDT)
Well to all the people who said "it'll never happen" or "I'm only doing my job" several of whom frequent this GB I say YOU BLOODY IDIOTS.
joe b
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 15:41:25 (PDT)
I take it you will be resigning now then?
The Real Hash
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 13:23:31 (PDT)
Back after my measured and considered response earlier ;-) (trust me - that was mild compared to the thoughts in my head!). Did anyone else hear radio5 just after 5? They had a roving reporter in MK asking people what they thought and guess what? Only 1 of the 5 or so interviewed actually expressed an interest and his annoying answer was "the area needs a team dunnit? It's too far to travel to Manchester". Of course we all knew that there would be an empty ground except for the away end. The studio team them came across as being totally dismissive stating that the ground would be used for "top class teams, and Wimbledon" followed by sniggers and a statement that "stranger things have happened" than Wimbledon being promoted to the Premier. Excuse me, we were founder members, you stupid bitch! However it appears that no-one gives a toss, and of course explains why they were just SO determined to stop us getting to the playoffs.
Edinburgh Don
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 11:02:55 (PDT)
Well in all honesty are any of us really surprised? It was all about money from the start and money won.I've said many times on this website that if an answer to the question, why should the Norwegians cough up to build a stadium at PL with little or no return on their money,then problem solved. Unfortunately business won on the day over passion and true feelings.The only way I can see out of things now is if someone who loves the club comes up with £20 million.Sorry not been defeatist just realistic.It will be interesting to see how Koppel takes the club forward now ( that is I suppose until everyone who has a finger in the pie in the MK deal gets fed up of having a football club around and costing money). Will certain players be re signed eg Ainsworth, Ardley, keep Hughes? If not it would seem obvious they have no long term plans for the club.I listened to Koppel on the radio this afternoon and he avoided answering questions he didn't like eg why was TB sacked.Nothing new there.He wouldn't say where the club ( can't say Wimbledon anymore)will be playing next season.Therefore who in their right mind now would apply for a season ticket.So will anyone go to SH if club still there next season on basis it would be the last? Perhaps average attendance next season could be the lowest ever for a league club.Wonder how the players will react to that? Still feel sorry for most of them though.
Wiltshire don
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 10:57:08 (PDT)
Utter disgrace although I'm not surprised, but a terrible day for all those WFC. The one thing that is really getting to me though is how Sam Hammam has got away with this. We have never held him accountable for. People refer to MK as a property deal, so was his sale of PL and the Club. He is the ultimate cause of this debacle and this should be brought to the media's attention. I for one hope the little sod gets found out in Cardiff because they will never let him out alive.
Jingo
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 08:37:06 (PDT)
A thought that crossed my mind after hearing this disgraceful news. I think another poster on this site, some while back, mentioned he had been contacted by someone( whom for reasons of job security had to remain annonymous))who said that he had seen documents that had this move all signed and delivered. Does this not suggest that maybe we will find out that this MK consortium are to actually buy out the Norwegians? Had others bought the Club and then tried to move it would never have been agreed but once the club are ensconsed in "roundabout town" then new buyers could suddenly appear. Just a thought!
TW
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 07:29:14 (PDT)
Bastards.
Edinburgh Don
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 06:51:03 (PDT)
good to see presumptions are being made already.
Paul R (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 06:09:36 (PDT)
so...going to resign now?
enjoy your wages mate
tfh (fg)
fg, fg USA - Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 06:01:04 (PDT)
This is it, Koppel has won. We need to get our side of the story across. WISA urges everyone to ring e-mail all the contacts on the WISA site. Please be as polite as you can be, but get our point of view across. Also please ring team talk today at 3.45pm, we have a representative speaking, the number is 08701250252. Contact anyone you can think of, and get our view across. Also if you can get to the vigil at Soho Square NOW!!! This is not over yet, lets let everyone know our side of the story, COME ON!!!!
WISA
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 05:01:29 (PDT)
Are those useless w*nkers Robert Paulson, Ralph Malph et al going to say "I told you so"?
Steve (thieua@hotmail.com)
South London, - Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 04:41:33 (PDT)
I write this before official confirmation but it's not good. If these early reports turn out to be correct it is an absolute disgrace. Not just to Wimbledon supporters but to every ordinary soccer fan in the country. Sure we will fight on but it is a turn around from our earlier position. Every fan of smaller clubs must now be concerned and afraid.
TW
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 04:19:41 (PDT)
No matter which way the FA decide, the struggle against CK will have to continue. He is determined to get his own way even if it means closing WFC. At one time I thought he was just carrying out Norwegian orders but I feel he now sees this as a personal crusade to beat Dons supporters one way or another.
TW
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 02:02:37 (PDT)
Paul, thanks. WISA News Updated: Decision Day Looms
Kevin Rye (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
BTW Ralph, it's 'publicising' ;) Nice to know I'm loved., - Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:59:15 (PDT)
Can we drop the Brighton Womble discussions. No one deserves to be slated for having difference views. After all we are all Wimbledon fans on here. I know we are all waiting for the verdict lets hope it's this week and the one we want.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, May 27, 2002 at 10:31:04 (PDT)
BW - you have left yourself open for things like that with your self publicing. No-one cares. By the way now you know how CK will feel...
Ralph Malph
- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 08:30:03 (PDT)
Brighton, go and cry to someone else, we r not bothered mate, your self-importance is getting a bit boring now!
Jay
- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 03:07:09 (PDT)
Brighton - I think you are also under the mis-apprehension that anyone actually cares.
Robert Paulson
- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 01:45:39 (PDT)
Brighton - why don't you 'take it further' rather than just giving the prankster the reaction he/she wants?
Edinburgh Don
- Saturday, May 25, 2002 at 05:56:13 (PDT)
I've just received what I consider to be an abusive email from an individual who has decided to 'hide' his/her email address. I post my email address around sites a lot because of my involvement with WISA and I hope it isn't anyone playing a stupid prank, because if it is it's not funny and I will take it further if need be.
Kevin Rye/Brighton Womble
- Friday, May 24, 2002 at 07:50:07 (PDT)
Just found this link on Sam Hammam, weird, but I think you should find it funny.
http://fingerdogs.tripod.com/
(Some adult content)
Don Corleone
- Friday, May 24, 2002 at 03:16:04 (PDT)
If they did prayers against MK at SGR's funeral, did Koppout immediately yell "Hail Satan"? :)
REPD (repd@repd.net)
My house, - Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 10:04:54 (PDT)
The vigil is still going, don't forget. If there is any way you can get yourselves to Soho Square please do. We can not get complacent. We are loyal supporters, lets show everyone just how loyal.
clair (clair@wisa.org.uk)
- Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 07:35:27 (PDT)
Wonderful to hear of the faces old and new who turned out for Sir Stanley Reed's funeral yesterday a veritable history of Wimbledon faces including some people I would not expect to see in the same room in any other circumstances. Chairman from Noades to Koppell, directors past present and maybe even future ;) Players from accross the years, wives families girlfriends and a healthy selcection of fans. I wish I had been able to go myself :( Found myself at 12.00 walking out of a meeting singing here we are again. Oh and the prayers apparently included a prayer against Milton Keynes so there you go Charles we can even fight you from the othrside! Stanley was a gent at Wimbledon and by this long standing fan will be sadly missed the replacements Stanley are not fit to wipe your boots :(
Sean Fox
- Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 00:08:22 (PDT)
wfc moving to mk would be a sham and the entire football community would know it. I think the FA will rule in our favour, if not then we can expect a support from football in this country without fail. Its too important and even those fans who are new to the game, ie last ten years, recognise that a teams roots define that team.
chris holmes
- Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 14:36:43 (PDT)
bryan - was Jar Jar really that bad? After all - he's more credible (more intelligent?) than Koppell!
Edinburgh Don
- Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 07:53:49 (PDT)
Well said Hutch, Christ knows where Brian has ben the last 10 months, worse case scenario FA say WFC can relocate, I will never set foot near Shiturst again as far as I would be concerned MY Wimbldon FC would be dead
Wibbly Don
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 13:10:56 (PDT)
Well said Hutch, Christ knows where Brian has ben the last 10 months, worse case scenarion FA say WFC can relocate, I will never set foot near Shiturst again as far as I would be concerned MY Wimbldon FC would be dead
Wibbly Don
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 13:10:34 (PDT)
Jamie it is b - obviously, only pro MK people would say a. Bryan you say "Surely it's still the same thing, just moved?" it isn't the same thing at all though is it? walking to Plough Lane on a hot Saturday or a pissing down Tuesday night are things that I long to do and would do regardless of how well the team is doing, getting 2 tubes a train and a bus to watch my team in somebody else's part of the country is a thought that I and 99% of Dons fans would not entertain. We want to see OUR team playing in OUR colours at OUR stadium in OUR corner of London in front of OUR fans, I want to welcome away fans to our ground and say look at what we have got, I want to go for a drink in Wimbledon before a game and meet fellow Dons who I don't know, then after the game I want to go to the pub, talk about the game and then WALK home, I want to see Wimbledon in years to come buzz with excitement before a cup game, I want to be able to introduce new supporters to WFC and them to bring their friends and families and so on, this is how we will build our community, it isn't just about football
Hutch
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 08:25:34 (PDT)
I don't think it's as clear club as an a) b) question. I certainly will never support WFC if they moved to Milton Keynes, but even if the FA say they can move there (which I'm sure they won't) there will be a period where the club is in limbo, and will need fighting for. I won't support it, but I also won't just sit by whilst this bunch of crooks take it up the M1. So far, WISA's biggest task has been to try and keep protests lawful, restraining people from invading the pitch, etc. If MK is allowed, all hell will break lose. I'm not saying that it is right, it's just a fact.
peter bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Friday, May 17, 2002 at 07:17:24 (PDT)
Alright then...I have a question and I want everyone to answer it honestly. What will you do if Wimbledon gos to Milton Keynes:
a) Still go and support them
b) Never go and watch them again
Come on everyone answer.
My answer is b)
Jamie
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 05:12:55 (PDT)
I think most of us started supporting the club based on the location for most people it being near there home. Although Selhurst is not home it a) was meant to be temporary!! Remember that Sam? b) It's South London. - Not really an answer but to a degree clubs can change there trading names i.e. isint CPFC official called CPFC 2000 or something? no one calls them that.
Paul R (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, May 17, 2002 at 05:06:33 (PDT)
Jamie - fair enough, but what if it's the whole kit and kaboodle - everything from the team manager down to the club crest? Surely it's still the same thing, just moved?
Bryan
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 04:53:56 (PDT)
Bryan Johnston - I think you've missed the point somewhere along the line!! A names a name, I personally think they will keep OUR name but it will not be the Wimbledon Football Club that I had and will ever want again if it happens. If Celsi changed there name to Wimbledon would u go and watch them? Come on mate, get a grip!
Jamie
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 04:49:18 (PDT)
Now, we all know that MK is the worst idea since George Lucas thought up Jar Jar Binks, BUT here's a question for you to mull over. Saying that (God forbid) MK gets the nod - and evryone stops going (as most people on the websites have said). Then in two years, if the club is still called Wimbledon Football Club and doing okay (not suggesting glory supporting) - what would people do then? This is an honest to goodness question - no underhand tactics here! I realise that some peoples' viewpoints are that if MK is given the go-ahead, then it CAN'T be called Wimbledon Football Club, but What If?
Bryan Johnstone
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 04:39:50 (PDT)
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GF
Guildford flame (bankrupt_lad@hotmail.com)
- Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 05:47:07 (PDT)
WANTED: Someone to manage the WISA vigil guestbook tomorrow (Friday). You don't have to be there all day, just to start the day off and ensure it is handed over. You will be needed from 8.30 am at Soho Square. Please call me if you can do this; 07932 067425.
Kevin Rye (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
WISA TASKMASTER, - Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 03:40:35 (PDT)
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