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i've just looked at the votes for the bradford game and to my surprise i saw ardley was leading the vote. i cannot believe that so many of my fellow respected wimbledon fans still rate one of the most appalling professional footballers i have ever seen. the man has no pace, fitness and limited skill. on saturday in the first half he gave the ball away on countless occasions. admittedly when moved out wide he did put good crosses in, but his positional sense was appalling. he looked shagged after 60 minutes and didnt begin to track back. having blagged some free press tickets just behind the dugout for the last three games i've got more of an insight into how the rest of the playing staff feel about him. in the rotherham game, shipperley shot wildly and murdock shouted - "why didnt u use neal" as ardley wos free on the wing. shipperley replied "cos he's s"*+". at least the new ronaldo shares my frustrations. although a commited servant of the club he is in my humble opinion the most overrated player in the country. his departure in the summer is a blessing. hopefully he'll move to the premiership and the rest of the country as well as the majority of dons fans will finally see him for what he really is.
jimmy
guildford, - Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 17:13:45 (PDT)
PUMA have announced the end of road for their kit sponsorship deal with WFC, but the announcement appears to be shrouded in some mystery.
The announcement itself comes after some nine months of a WISA led boycott of official merchandise that has resulted in weekly turnover in the club shops falling by a reputed two thirds.
Remarking on the news, Charles Koppel said: 'Wimbledon and Puma have enjoyed a strong working relationship over the past two seasons. We would like to thank Puma for their effort and support during this time and wish them every success in the future.'
However, despite reports stating that the contract was for two years, after further investigation - and according to the official programme at the time the deal was announced in May 2000 - the deal WAS supposed to last until the 2003/4 season.
On the 6th May 2000, then WFC Ltd Marketing Manager Sharon Sillitoe wrote: 'I want to introduce our new kit sponsors for the next FOUR seasons, PUMA (UK) Ltd.'
This seems to contradict the Koppel's version of events and brings into question how much his and the Norwegian's plans to kill the club, combined with the merchandise boycott, are not just hurting Koppel but are turning potential sponsorship and income away - vital if Koppel is going to continue to pay expensive legal and PR fees to his army of lawyers and his spin machine, Brunswick.
Also, when PUMA signed the deal they highlighted the geographical closeness of the two businesses as a strong motivation behind the deal, with Andrew Peters of PUMA saying; 'We are very exicted about our new partnership with Wimbledon, more so as our copmany is based in Leatherhead and it is our local team'
Quite why the club appear to have skated over these facts we can only speculate, but it appears that a combination of Charles Koppel's continued attempts to move the club 70 miles north and the ongoing WISA led official merchandise boycott have meant that PUMA have finally lost patience.
WFC Ltd say that they will announce a new deal shortly, although many people have already predicted that the club may have to return to producing its own kit.
Fancy that!
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 16:33:01 (PDT)
Christ - that's even worse!! Now I have to call him after a part of a womans' anatomy?!?!?! Ho hum
Robert Paulson
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 15:01:07 (PDT)
Don't worry mate, his nickname is Titters and he loves it!!
That ginger bird from grond force
with my jubblies swinging free, - Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 13:54:22 (PDT)
Genuine question as I spoke at length to him on Saturday - who is the Alan Titchmarsh lookalike-because, as I'm sure you'll all agree, I just can't call him Alan!!!
Robert Pauklson
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 13:39:12 (PDT)
Havent been on here for a few days so not had a chance to reply to Stuart on his comments. ftr I have spoken to you since the Milton Keynes thing broke you chose to pretend not to hear me iirc! As it goes I never particualrly knew you before hand so unlike in the case of other clubshop employees is there a particular reason why I would talk to you? My suggestion of talking to me was a genuine one because i am concerned you are starting to believe inaccurate propoganda and worse still may be spreading it
Equally I have spoken to Chris on numerous ocassions since then at the reserves and at a number of away games. As for Paul I havent seen a great deal of him lately which baring in mind he was a regular traveller with me to away games is unfortuante. I did however see him last week and as I am sure he will confirm did not ignore him or threaten him. Anyone else that works in the shop I dont think I know so it seems your problem may sadly be personal rather than professional.
You dont like protests outside the shop well I dont like the attempt to relocate our club to Milton Keynes, you dont like pickets outside the shop I view it as entirely legitimate and lawful protest. If its not then can someone tell me why nobody has been arrested in these protests? The difference on my part is not personal animosity it isabout what I believe is right.
To paul btw apologies for using up your g/book to reply :)
Sean Fox (seanphilfox@aol.com)
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 13:33:27 (PDT)
its not over yet. If brum lose against Crewe we can still do it. We are 2 points off the playoffs with 2 to play. Lets hope dario does us a favour.
The Real Hash
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 11:35:23 (PDT)
Congratulations To Brighton on getting promoted today as Brentford play reading on the last day of the season both teams cant overtake them.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 09:41:38 (PDT)
Brum just drew with Portsmouth so they are on 69 points they have a game more to play than everyone else (against Crewe) but Crewe still need points so it could still be all to play for.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 08:14:01 (PDT)
Crewe are playing today because it was scheduled for regional tv coverage live on ITV1 here in Carlton area.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 08:09:10 (PDT)
Regarding today's matches. Can anyone tell me why Crewe are playing today and we played yesterday??????
wiltshire don
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 07:38:40 (PDT)
Regarding today's matches. Can anyone tell me why Crewe are playing today and we played yesterday??????
wiltshire don
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 07:38:20 (PDT)
As suggested yesterday anyone up for atrip to see Molde and our owners
We are sailing
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 06:39:36 (PDT)
Brum 1-0 up against Pompey :( , WBA 1-1 Rotherham and Palace 0-0 @ Crewe
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 06:38:27 (PDT)
How depressing yesterday was after some recent committed performances.Fatigue was given as the excuse but anyone with half a brain could see what the problem was as soon as Jobi went off. Francis clearly didn't want to play down the right wing and everytime Holloway got the ball he was forced to pass inside where we were bundled off the ball. Logical ( I know such a word shouldn't be used in a football context)said put Ardley out on the right wing so why did it take the management until half time to work out something us stupid fans saw straightaway. In my view that's what lost us the game, a wasted 35 first half. minutes.
wiltshire don
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 03:32:10 (PDT)
ah well. Its all academic now :-(
The Real hash
- Saturday, April 06, 2002 at 14:42:11 (PST)
TBH I would much rather us play wolves or west brom in the playoffs than Birmingham. I dunno why, I just have a strange feeling that Brum are gonna give us an almighty tonking next time we play them. Lets hope it aint for a good few years yet.
The Real Hash
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 15:42:10 (PST)
Millwall Just beat Wolves 1-0 to go into 4th in the table and 4pts ahead of us!! Table been updated already. Man City are promoted.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 12:44:09 (PST)
Hopefully we'll end up 5th or 6th then, I think we'd be better off playing at home in the first leg, we all know what we're like in two legged semi-finals!
Nick (nick.draper@tinyworld.co.uk)
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 12:17:59 (PST)
Cheers Nige shows what I know :) I see that the 3rd Division playoff is on 6th May the playoff dates are 27/28 Sat/Sun April 1st Leg teams 5&6 at Home 30/1st Tue/Wed April/May 2nd Leg teams 3&4 at Home Final Sunday 12th May.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 11:23:17 (PST)
Paul for some reason to do with the shortened season because of World Cup, the play-off final is Sunday May 12th this year. The FA Cup final is on the bank Holiday weekend.
Nige (nigehiggs@yahoo.co.uk)
Wimbledon, South London - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 11:08:21 (PST)
Pete - edited your post as you had a typo that said AFAIK on wisa members changed it to AFAIK non wisa members hope this was right.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 10:29:40 (PST)
Just a reminder for everyone - WISA EGM where there will be a motion debated to decide WISA's stance on Season Tickets for next season. If you're a WISA member and you're not there, your opinion won't be heard, so don't complain.
Please remember to bring your WISA membership card, to help with the admin side of things. AFAIK non wisa members are allowed in, but don't get to vote. - Memberships are being taken on the day.
Thankyou
Peter Bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 09:48:50 (PST)
By the way anyone who goes to the Division 1 page of bbc.co.uk Sport the Connolly out for the season story is about the Wolves player, not our David. :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster"itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 08:35:55 (PST)
The playoff final is on the first Bank Holiday in May so 6th May.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 08:06:53 (PST)
whats day is the play-off final on this year?
peterboro don
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 07:21:23 (PST)
TRH, yes it is exciting, but also I have never had nerves like that at a home game for years. I am just so desperate for us to go up. I have always believed in playing against the best, and evewn though when Man Utd played at ours we had to put up with there cockney reds. I for one was so excited at seeing our players up against Beckham, giggs and others. Thats what it is all about. As for how many we would take to Cardiff, I would say between 5K and 6K. I say this because when we went to Highbury for the Semi final against Chelsea I belive we took in the region of that figure and that was in london and we had the Premiership hanger ons then. Were we really 17th after the Coventry game??? Its been such a long season but I must of forgot about that. What a last couple of months it has been. Also 4 cleans sheets in a row. Kelvin was so happy when he got his man of the match award last night. I would also imagine he will be happy with his clean sheet bonus aswell, but well deserved may I add.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 04:33:31 (PST)
stu- absolutely spot on. Next season we lose loads of money because o ITV etc and the sky parachute (sp?)payments and Koppel will obviously go mental selling everyone. I do not see why promotion will mean MK. We can all write to the prem chairman and persuade them otherwise anyway. But one thing, this is gonna be a very exciting end of season. After we lost against Coventry and we werw 17th in the league, we were all so depressed but now there there is this buzz around the place. I really cannot wait until tomorrow, I'm really fired up for it. But how many would we take to Cardiff? Someone said 7k but tbh i reckon it will be more. All members and ST holders will surely go? That means 4k and I would imagine they would take on average a guest each which makes it 8k. Plus a few bandwagon jumpers so i am going for 10-12k.
The Real Hash
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 04:07:58 (PST)
Just wanted to say last nights atmosphere was brilliant I wasn't in the Homesdale but the pro team singing was really good yes their was anti MK songs and I think the balance was right last night. Well done everyone lets keep it goig tomorrow against Bradford.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 03:28:00 (PST)
BW, lets be fair if we got to the Playoffs in Cardiff, no one in their right mind would turn up to the game and want us to lose!! As for the PL chairman, who knows what they would decide, they are unpredictable. Real hash, I think the club has to go up to survive, I just dont see a future for us in the lower divisions. We need to be in the big league. I know people say they would rather se us playing Reading than no home and in the premiership. But I dont see in 2-3 years time there being a Division 2 or 3. Maybe semi pro but not big time players. Concerning the playoffs, I was thinking to myself that if we finish 6th we then face West Brom or Wolves. That will be so tough, but as they say, if you are going to win something, you have to face the big teams eventually. I thought Linoel was outstanding last night and I would imagine he will now struggle to play our last 3 games, but if we reach the playoofs, then you never know he may be available then.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 02:18:52 (PST)
One thing, Stuart, I really don't know if I want us to get into the P/offs. But it was said last night after the match though by a lot of people, IF (and it's a big IF) we did get to Cardiff, who would want us to lose? Not me. If we have to whip the asses of Prem Chairmen as well to face off Milton Koppel, so be it.
Brighton Womble
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 01:56:46 (PST)
stu- i aint havin a pop mate but do you think going up this season will be good for the club? A lot of people seem to think it will mean Milton keynes, others seem to think it will mean the Nogs/CK hanging around, not spending any money and seeing us relegated by christmas. While i can see that, at the same time surely going up will attract more potential buyers as well as developers for the consortium to build on PL. Anyway, can we do it????
The Real Hash
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 01:11:45 (PST)
BW, nice to see you back on the site, long time no hear :-) It was very encouranging to see people not tow the party line. What a result last night. I thought the atmosphere at the game was brilliant. The holmesdale seemed emptier than normal, but the support for the lads was superb. It certainly encoraged the team on and lets hope we have the same encourangment on Saturday. I was so nervous before last night, but I am even worse now after looking at the table. We are so close!!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 00:16:00 (PST)
Stuart, just goes to show there is not, and never has been, a party line. There are as many views on ST's as there are committee members.
Brighton Womble
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 15:32:10 (PST)
Ladbrokes, where's my money then. I just put £10 down.
Kevin Rye (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Not ashamed of my views., - Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 15:30:43 (PST)
OH NO!!! Someone has a quote DIRECT from ME on an internet chat room saying I'm pro-MK!!! That has certainly backed me into a corner hasn't it boys and girls. Well, what can I say?!!? Jeez, good thing you can't take me to court over it, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on!! Ah well, off to masturbating over Arsenal videos and staring at my picture of the MK stadium plans, hey??
Nick (nick.draper@tinyworld.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 14:58:02 (PST)
i wonder, a wonder, in fact whoever the bloody hell you are calling yourself - have some bloody guts and reveal yourself in order to have a proper conversation or piss off. Either way you need to grow up!
Robert Paulson
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 14:47:52 (PST)
repd- there is no need for you to defend urself as u have done nothing wrong. this is about a comment someone made in ur chat room. oh and stuart, you have contradicted urself. u said u cannot take anyone seriously if you dont know who they are, but earlier you said that if i give u a url u will take me seriously. BUT YOU DONT KNOW WHO I AM!!!!!!!! so how can u take me seriously?!?!?!?!
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:53:35 (PST)
Urm, somebody mention my site? There's a chat room (which remains unlogged) and there's a guestbook (which isn't). Am not aware of any such comment on the GB. There was also an April Fools joke about MK which is more my warped sense of humour.
REPD (repd@repd.net)
Defending himself, - Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:51:06 (PST)
my god. is stuart waiting for me or something. every time i come back here he has posted a response. IMPRESSIVE. oh and i cant take anyone who works for koppel and claims to be anti MK seriously. the two just dont go together. its hypocrisy and naivity combined, which is terrible to a monumental extreme.
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:48:35 (PST)
Im quite calm mate to be honest. How can you take someone seriously when you dont even know who they are. Seems to be a trend on this guestbooks. Well at least I can sleep nicely knowing I was man enough to back up my words. Nice and calm sitting at my work desk.
Stuart D (s)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:46:01 (PST)
oh and his site hasnt been updated for ages and barely has a mention of MK in any case
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:44:20 (PST)
how terrifying. stuart is getting worked up. using swear words and bad language. also becoming rather sarcastic and saying 'merry christmas'. this is incredible. maybe the truth hurts? maybe i have hit a raw nerve? maybe, just maybe. oh and i was there so i dont need to requst any web master to 'dig out' as you put it the quotes. I know he said it, so do other people, therefore YOU go and request the quotes if you want them (as u requested me for them i presume you want them). someone was pretending to be him? i doubt it very much. you can tell. have fun in koppels shop tonight.
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:42:50 (PST)
Strange also how Nick is always on guestbooks and has his own site. Surely if he believed that then he would say it on his own site. I personally dont think you want to believe it anyway. And whats wrong with wanting to be like Arsenal. Do you have no ambition, oh no I forgot you are a Wimbledon Fan.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:41:00 (PST)
I wonder, did you not read my quote!!!!! Tell you what, I will go on the top floor at Centre Court and tell the whole shooping centre!! Will you believe me then. If it is a chat room, cant you request the person who runs the site to go back and dig out the comment. Also ever heard of people pretending to be someone else on a chat room. I have had it happen to me before. I wonder if you will ever believe me!!! To be honest I dont give a flying fuck. Happy Xmas
Stuart D (s)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:37:56 (PST)
he didnt say he had his doubts he said merton wont happen. if he seriously does believe this then i would like to ask him where he has been for the last 6 months. strange the way he ran off when we asked him to explain his beliefs. oh and i have no doubt at all. PL will happen if the owners want it.
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:36:05 (PST)
thank you for telling me to enjoy the game. it was very thoughtful of you. i hope u do as well, in koppels shop or wherever u hang around. As for the URL, erm, it is a chatroom mate. the quote is gone. and as for the reliable source comments. i am the reliable source because i was there. other people were there also. if they read this they will know who they are. The room had at least 5 people in it other than Nick, i want our club to be like arsenal, Draper. oh and i dont believe you (when u say you will never go to MK). You will. You will.
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:33:39 (PST)
I wonder, BTW I have serious doubts on the Plough Lane. I would love it if it happened but I have my doubts. Its like anything, you go past there and you try to map out the new ground in your head. Just because you have doubts on PL, doesnt mean you are pro MK does it???? Nick never said that he would never want to return to Merton did he??
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:33:23 (PST)
I WONDER, get me the URL for it and I might take you seriously. I know Nick very well and cant believe he would say that as me and his brother speak at every home game. Also I would say check the quote for yourself as I would never trust a reliable source. They 9 times out of 10 are wrong. BTW I will never go to MK!!! There you are, you have a quote you have seen for your own eyes from me!! Just incase you want to get rumours about me. Enjoy the game.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:28:59 (PST)
on sw19s chat 'MK will be good for the club' a few days ago as a reliable source informs me. When asked about Plough Lane 'it will never happen. it cant happen'.
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 07:17:48 (PST)
charles_koppel@hotmail.com
secret service
cyberputney, - Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 06:32:34 (PST)
I wonder - please inform us of the direct quote from Nick of him supporting MK!!! Im waiting, dont take all day I have got a game to go to
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 06:07:02 (PST)
nick is pro MK
i wonder
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 06:01:22 (PST)
Nick, R Don, Paul R and Stuart - You're all bastards. I'm hurt. You're right.....but I'm hurt!
Left back in the changing room
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 05:33:32 (PST)
R Don, trust me Chris should not be let loose on a football pitch!! I let him come down to training with my Sunday team, he was great at running and getting the ball, the problem come when he decided to shoot or pass!! He didnt always pass in the direction he wanted and when he decided to shoot!!! Well everyone ducked!!! But appart from that he was a great advert for the game :-)
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 05:08:42 (PST)
The best place for Chris is Left back etc!!
R Don
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 04:16:38 (PST)
Paul, Nick. I have always said Chris could play on the wing. The mental wing as in the hospital he visits daily :-)
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 02:30:46 (PST)
Nick - Do you think he could play on the wing? He might be better in the middle then he could be on the wing as well. :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 02:01:41 (PST)
LATEST BETTING : Stuart D to talk sense and agree with anyone 1000/1, BW to post under his own name again 10/1, WISA to get people to boycott season tickets even though it means saving money - SORRY NO ODDS TO BE GIVEN - but would probally start at 10000/1
Labrokes
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 01:12:02 (PST)
Sean, not being funny , but I cant be arsed to talk to you. You seem to think that when you are in a group of 10 you can be openly hostile towards me, and then by yourself you just avoid me. Strange that. Jonesy, Phillo, Ronan, Peter Bowles Lou and many others have spoke to us on many occasions and even though they disagree with what we do, they treat us with curtosey. Ladbrokes, nice to see we have a popular bookies talking to us. Ronan/Kris, good to see that you have a difference of opinion on the season ticket issue's. It proves my point that everyone can have a opinion and it doesnt have to be the same party line.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 01:07:17 (PST)
i wonder - if NIck is pro MK, then I'm a Dutchman. End of
John Smith
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 00:33:32 (PST)
nick- why are you pro Milton keynes? tell us all why yuo think the move will work?
i wonder
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 15:26:52 (PST)
Picking up on the Nowland idea, he won't start against Crewe but I'd like him to. He's looked really good so far, and I think he'd relish playing against a slow Crewe backline, feeding off Shipps of course. Aggy could come on later to take the mick out of a knackered defence!
Nick (nick.draper@tinyworld.co.uk)
i wouldn't mind seeing me bro on the wing, come to think of it, - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 14:45:15 (PST)
LATEST BETTING : Stuart D to make a sideswipe at Sean Fox while talking about other things. 4/6 ON. Brighton Womble to get blamed for this post EVENS. Next post about the left back position 2/1. Quote about various people being posted on this site 10/3. Post about Milton Keynes and how bad it is 100/1. Singles and above accepted.
Ladbrokes
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 13:50:06 (PST)
Well Stuart good to see you yourself are engaging in constructive debate and comment as ever. Me talk about football no I never do that which is why I follow the CLub around the country week after week and why I spent a windy night last night at Kingsmeadow watching the reserves. Where in fact I spent a very enjoyable evenign talking to a number of fellow suporters including Club employees about a wide range of footballing issues. Now of course where our team is palying next year and who owns us next year are not in the least football related are they? But if it makes you feel any better we discussed amongst other things Mark Williams facial injury from Monday and the prospects of Adam Nowland starting tomorrow. Perhaps if you ever had a conversation with me you might find out such things rather than making cheap snide comments
Sean Fox
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 13:44:45 (PST)
Ralphy, in addition to my last posting, NO!!! I dont buy the pravda
Wibbly Don
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 13:41:52 (PST)
TW, I suppose I just have a persecution complex.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Infamy, infamy etc...., - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 13:33:00 (PST)
Ralphy mate welcome back,my question to g.thorley@wimbledon-fc.co.uk can you categorically confirm where WFC will be playing their football in 2002-2003 or will you wait until the ST money is in the bank then confirm that we will be playing in Northampton, MK or wherever, reply:"the 2002-2003 ST prices announced on Saturday relate to WFC playing at Selhurst Park next season, at the current time this is fully our expectation.
If this position does change, all ST holders and memebers will be notified as soon as possibe" I am really glad that Mr Thorley categorically and emphatically stated where we will be playing next season!!! maybe the statement by WISA isnt such a load of nonsence after all, by the way Ralphy when did YOU get your letter stating that we will be moving to MK, oh yes I forgot, like the rest of us trusting supporters, it was after WFC had banked out ST money last year
Wibbly Don
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 13:27:52 (PST)
If we do beat Crewe it's important that the players keep their heads for Saturdays game but I think we could make the play offs and using the calculator I had us in 5th place.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 11:18:22 (PST)
If we beat crewe and go one point off the play offs, do u think we cud do it?
Scared to be optimistic Don
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 10:18:13 (PST)
I'll happily sign up to "bullish" myself. Not sure it's really a negative thing though.
kris (chair@wisa.org.uk)
London, - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 09:37:58 (PST)
It's not a mistake at all, honest or otherwise. WFC Ltd has been asked about where we will be playing next season and has, so far, refused to answer. Therefore there is, quite clearly, no committment as to where we will be playing. Simple as, really.
kris (chair@wisa.org.uk)
London, - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 09:34:06 (PST)
Ralph - must admit you have a point. Although I disagree with the 'bullish' comment - I'd say it's an honest mistake. Why don't you join up and change how things work?
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 09:26:34 (PST)
Brighton Womble, why are you picking on me? I never once thought that you and "Fancy That" are one and the same. But if the cap fits!
TW
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 08:23:17 (PST)
I had decided to stop posting on here after a discussion with the Club Shop boys who put me straight on a few points... But sadly today I feel compeled to the sheer stupidity of the WISA press release. All my worst fears are confirmed that the people involved are not looking at the whole picture. A line in there says there is 'no commitment from Club as to where they will be playing next season.' Are you sure did you not see the posters and the info in the programme on Saturday? It advertises prices for the Holmesdale Road stand lower tier (I wonder where that is), Glaziers Lounge, Executive & Coppell Lounge. If I'm not mistaken they are all at SELHURST PARK. If they are going to make press releases at least get the facts correct. This highlights the amatuerish and bullish way in which some people in this organisation carry on.
Ralph Malph
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 08:18:05 (PST)
Brighton Womble, I apologise if Fancy that is not you in disguise. I ahve to admit that it seemed very much like your sense of homour. Paul. I think we should just ignore his posts!! HERE, HERE!!!!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 02:09:36 (PST)
Stuart, Paul, TW - whoever, I have to say that even I'm a bit more original than whoever 'Fancy That' is.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Not a total idiot., - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 01:41:23 (PST)
Hutch, Been away for a couple of days so I couldnt respond to your message. Its been a great weekend and the results could not of been better. I dont know if we have an option to recal Hughsie, but it could be a great idea, I saw the highlights from the Palace-Birmingham game and he was excelent as ever. Brighton Womble ( Fancy That), I see you are boring as ever. SF, Never seen you talk about football on here anyway, you only get involed when people are arguing so you can get your two pence worth. So you know where you can go!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 00:19:44 (PST)
"fancy that" will you please stop disturbing the quiet tranquility of the IMBD guestbook with your totally irelevant to our football club's future quotes? Anyone would think you were trying to suggest the whiff of hypocrisy in the morning or something why dont you sit down shut up and support the team :)
Sean Fox
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 23:33:03 (PST)
So what's the argument this week?
Ronan
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 15:42:08 (PST)
Fancy That: you're some kind og Pratt! Grow up or sod off. Where are you coming from? You're not even making a decent discussion. When you've learnt how to dry behind your ears or even wipe your bottom then come back and talk with the big boys, until then shut it!
TW
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 11:54:29 (PST)
'Fancy that' poster, you really are boring us now with your comments. If you had the decency to actually tell us who you are, we'd be interested. But I really doubt that will happen. But anyway, on a football related note, play-offs are certainly achievable. If we beat Crewe, I think we'll make it, only because you know you're onto something if you beat two hoodoos in one game! Dunno how we would fair if we did make them, but if we get into 6th place, I reckon we'd be facing Wolves over two legs, and I quite fancy that at the mo.
Nick (nick.draper@tinyworld.co.uk)
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 11:17:01 (PST)
i hope wimbledon get into the play offs and get back michael huges.
Steven perez (www.raisinghell24@hotmail.com)
london, wimbledon england - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 09:49:03 (PST)
Fancy That - You are so big it's funny. Thats it continue to hide behind a made up name making childish statements have the guts to show who you are.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 09:19:00 (PST)
"If you do, I will. Mummy?!" - Paul Raymond
Fancy That!
Getting confused?, - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 07:27:15 (PST)
"I will not resign from the club shop because I am a man of principle" - Paul Raymond
Fancy That!
Getting confused?, - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 07:26:19 (PST)
"I will not re-resign from the club shop out of principle" - Stuart Deacons
Fancy That!
Getting confused?, - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 07:25:52 (PST)
"I have unresigned from the club shop out of principle" - Stuart Deacons
Fancy That!
Spot the difference?, - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 07:25:28 (PST)
"I have resigned from the club shop out of principle" - Stuart Deacons
Fancy That!
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 07:25:12 (PST)
Stu - a little quiet on here, can I continue last week's discussion:) in light of the weekend's results do you now agree that we should call Hughesie back from his loan even if it is just for a week? I think we should - 2 games in 3 days, any knocks that we might pick up during the Crewe game will leave little/no time for recovery, having Hughesie back will a) give us more options b) give us something different c) dent Birmingham's chances of a playoff spot. also there has been discussion on WWW as to whether promotion would be a good thing or not, I am undecided as the Prem OK'd Dublin but the extra revenue a season in the Prem would generate would scupper most of Koppells argements
Hutch
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 06:30:45 (PST)
Dont know if people have seen the recent update on Gareth Ainsworth's web site if not have a look at it here
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 05:55:37 (PST)
Mr Fancy That (Is that you, Brighton?) do you believe every newspaper twisted comment that you read?
Edinburgh Don
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 04:40:51 (PST)
"My blind loyalty is to the club, not the fans"
Fancy that!
- Monday, April 01, 2002 at 15:15:13 (PST)
Arise Sir Neal. Just when the Dons need a hero more than ever to thwart the dastardly Johnny Foreigner's plans to ruin the club and make sure they never see the Premiership again while existing anywhere near London, a true Dons man chips in with a vital winner. It's not the first time we've been thanking him either. You can keep your 'showboat Hughes' and 'Sicknote Ainsworth' give me a grafter like Mr. Ardley anyday.
Edinburgh Don
- Monday, April 01, 2002 at 14:09:02 (PST)
LL - But dont you agree to a point that the bottom has fallen out of the transfer market? and that prices that used to be paid just are not any more. - REPD - I think Barney is a) inbetween jobs at the moment b) in the process doing a book about 20 years in football.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, March 29, 2002 at 05:18:29 (PST)
What is Barnard up to these days?
REPD (repd@repd.net)
Off to Gatwick, - Friday, March 29, 2002 at 04:42:42 (PST)
Just a small point about transfers. When SH conducted transfers he had a person of experience alongside him at all times. That person being David Barnard. Experience results in confidence and thus higher transfer values forthe transferring club. CK has made a major mistake by telling all who will listen that as a Club we are broke. It means he cannot command good value in the transfer market and it hsows he is a poor negotiator. If he were salesman in my team, he would have been given his cards yesterday and told to clear his desk.
Laurence (wisa@cool-net.co.uk)
Tired - Friday, March 29, 2002 at 03:31:58 (PST)
So whats the argument this week>?
Ronan (youknow who i am)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 17:40:33 (PST)
this is a message from someone starting a campaign against itv digital, seems to be growing quite fast. Thought I'd help spread the word:
The demise of ITV may bring about the demise of your football club. Their
arrogance in promoting matches of bigger clubs as the only ones to watch,
changing kick off times to antisocial hours of the day, and forcing fans
who have already paid to pay again to watch their team has caused our once
beautiful game to become a shambles.
Now is the time for the football fan to fight back. Lets hit them where it
hurts: in the pocket. We will be organising boycotts of ITV programmes,
to highlight to the advertisers that it isnt just their digital channel that
cannot make the viewing figures. If ITV charged a fairer deal, worked with
BSKYB, or even just listened to the fans in the first place, then this would
never have happened.
Sign up, and save football.
http://www.iou-sport.co.uk/ (online soon)
http://www.smallheathalliance.co.uk/iou-sport/
peterboro don
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 13:52:50 (PST)
Stu - I think what I am trying to say here is how dissappointed I am that our promising squad is being torn apart. Ainsworth will do well wherever he goes (bet he stays injury free for a while) Coops will be the same as will Hughesie. There is no way we can assume that youngsters will step in for these seasoned players (some of the best in div 1) because they will be sold too if an offer comes in. It is difficult to predict what will happen next season as their is so much uncertainty surrounding the whole thing. In half an hour more players could be gone and with transfer deadline day being so close to the end of the season who is to say the selling has to stop today, Koppell will do anything including IMO letting players go and train elsewhere with a view to moving at the end of the season. at the end of today we will know who is available for the last 6 games, no more, by the end of April we might not even have a club we recognise - I see the glimmer of playoff hope as a silver lining, it seems the club are only interested in dark clouds!
Hutch
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 08:46:25 (PST)
But Hutch, the club cant block approaches. They have already told Gareth that he can go at the end of the season, So why should they block the bid. Gareth has got to look after himself and I would guess that if the Loan deal became permanent he will be thankfull to the club for informing him of the loan request. Gareth has to find work, just like the rest of us.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 08:01:08 (PST)
Stu - unsurprisingly - not at all! the club should have rejected the approach from PNE, GA has to look after himself - true - surely the club should be doing the same?
Hutch
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 07:11:24 (PST)
So Hutch, in saying that, you should be angry with GA and not with the club then.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 06:02:39 (PST)
Paul - agree that he needs to show what he can do but he had offers from other clubs (i.e. not our rivals) and turned them down it is not as though he didn't have a choice
Hutch
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 05:23:10 (PST)
Stu - I think it was over 900 players are out of contract this summer in all divisions thats over 10 players at each of the nationwide clubs so it may include premiership and Scotland.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:46:50 (PST)
Regarding the point of view that we are almost at the end of season so players dont need to go on loan as their contracts will expire anyway. How about this question, We all know GA.com loves the dons and in an ideal situation he would be playing in our first team, in two months time he will be out of work and needs to find a new club when interviewed they ask so what have you done in the last few seasons and all he can do is say well I got 2 goals at Newcastle when I came on as sub and I tackled the ball with my head, he needs to get first team action to guarantee him a future with a contract in the game. Gareth knows that allthough he will be gutted to leave the Dons he has got 6 games to show the division that he can cut it. Now if the above reads as I dont think he can thats not what I am trying to say Gareth needs first team action and if he cant get it with us he has to get it elsewhere and he has selected Preston I hope for himself that he does well and gets rewarded with a contract. We all know what a great player we have lost but to a certian extent he got to be selfish and think about his future.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:40:43 (PST)
Paul, just to update even further, Bradford could let a forth player go, Eion Jess to Kilmarnock. There chairman is a realist, and it seems he must be panicking if he is letting 4 players go of good quality and also on good wages. I think this summer could be the scariest of all. Remember that report about how many players were given free transfers throughout the league?? wasnt it in the 100's. Well it could be even worst this year with this ITV digital thing. Just when I thought our situation couldnt get any worse!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:34:39 (PST)
Stu - you could argue that it would have its up's and downs. - By the way couple of transfer's that have gone through Bradford sent three players out on loan and Terry Cooke of Man City (ex star of Man U bought for £1.3m) has gone on loan to Grimsby.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:27:56 (PST)
Yeah, I agree we still have points to play for. It is disapointing, but GA we havent had, so how can we miss him, MH is a great player but we have Trond and Damien who can do a job. KC in my mind can be replaced by Lionel without to much trouble. I would be more distressed if we sold players and had no replacement what-so-ever. But we have ready made replacements available of good quality. Its like I put in previuos posts, it seems that we are going to have to rely on a strong 13-14 players. We have had luxuries the last two seasons but it cant last for ever.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:27:50 (PST)
BW - I was just clarifying your point in terms of line management didn't say it was good bad or indifferent. :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:24:19 (PST)
Stu - could be 4 from WBA, Burnley, Norwich, Millwall, Coventry playoff experience? look at it this way, if we win on Saturday we could be 3 behind with a game in hand and still in the hunt - this is extremely optimistic but if we win Saturday and Monday we could be level on points with 6th place - then we are playing on Thursday when none of our rivals have a game! I personally can't see us winning on Monday but a club with ANY ambition would see that we a)have a chance b) have 3 fixtures in a week that could yield 9 points c) if you don't have your best players to pick from you have less of a chance of winning these games
Hutch
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:20:56 (PST)
Paul, do you know what!! I wish that my boss was the bloke who owns Playboy. Could you imagine the perks. I would do a West Brom special. Boing, boing!!! I could see the pictures now :-)
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:11:46 (PST)
But Hutch, hand on heart, do you seriously think we can get the points needed to get a playoff place and then win the playoffs??? I think even if we made the playoffs, there will be teams in there that have years of playoff experience!! It odes give you an extra edge as teams like, Ipswich and Bolton have proved. Remember Preston last year, they did so well making the playoffs, but Bolton used thier experience to beat them easily on the day.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:06:29 (PST)
Paul, if KIR is your boss, does that make it any better? Should have thought that's even worse really.
Brighton Womble
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 04:05:12 (PST)
I think officially contracts run out in June? we are not actually taking any money (except from Cooper's Sale) we are saving a bit but increasing the chances of others making the Premier League. If we were to go up (big if I know) we would get PL money next season - if we came back down we would get 2 more years parachute money. If we don't go up we might get no TV money next season - surely the lure of that is enough to hold onto a couple of players for a few weeks?
Hutch
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 03:57:21 (PST)
Hutch, trust me im not diliberalty disagreing with you to be awkward. When do the contracts run out, I never can remember the date. Maybe with all this ITV digital shit happening we might be wiser taking the money now, rather than waiting till clubs become tight. I agree that it does strenghten other clubs fight for a playoff place, but in all fairness we have fucked up ourselves!!! Anyway the general feeling amongst fans on the net is that it would be disatrous to go up. I suppose I just have always looked on things with my head rather than my heart. My heart says that we should keep everyone and go to the banks for loans and go all out for promotion. My head says that we will go bust in 2 years if we done that and still go bust if we dont do nothing now.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 03:51:22 (PST)
Stu - I wish I could see it like you - our overheads will be reduced in DAYS time when contracts are up. Loaning Hughes and GA simply strengthens their chances of making the playoffs and reduces ours! surely waiting a few DAYS would have been worth the small gamble of keeping Hughes, Coops and GA for a few more DAYS. What would be wrong with a midfield of GA, Hughes, Morgan and Trond and really going for 6 wins from the last 6 - what have we to lose?
Hutch
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 03:43:23 (PST)
Its good to see people have got humour on this site. I always thought PD's boss was Captain imBWin disguise :-) It was to obvious, even for a thick person like me. It was funny though, good to see you have a sence of humour, I did have my doubts
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 03:40:20 (PST)
As far as I am concerned, Adolf Hitler isn't my boss. My boss is Captain Justobeyingorders and we actually get on rather well.
Private DowhatImtold
Germany 1944 - Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 03:31:43 (PST)
Hutch, I suppose if we need to reduce our overheads that quickly, i guess you cant be too chosey who you sell the players too. I dont think we have a hop in hells chance of making the playoffs now. We have 3 home games in a week and after that result at Grimsby, we will do well to bounce back so quickly. Also from what I heard about Rotherham, they are a kick and run outfit where all there players could turn out for a Basketball team as they are so tall. We never do well against big and physical sides, so we will do well to win tommorow. Then again if we win, it sets us up nicely for Sheffield Utd, but they are on a good run at the moment. Anyway, lets not look to far ahead, we aint got to 5pm yet :-)
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 03:23:36 (PST)
Paul - I would rather give my money to the trust or WISA than Palace. GA has a website where people can/will thank him, wish him luck etc. I am still astonished at the way we are helping our rivals (Wolves, Preston, Norwich and attempted to help WBA and Birmingham) it has to be the first time in history a club has gone out of it's way to strengthen it's rivals chances of promotion and denting it's own at the same time. People will say the wage bill needs to be reduced - won't you Stu :) - but we are DAYS away from the end of the season DAYS away from contracts running out and like everything at WFC at the moment it makes no sense at all!
Hutch
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 03:02:51 (PST)
With Gareth off to Preston I see that they still have to visit Sunny Selhurst on 13th April, with us not having a game that day (playing wolves on the sunday) would anyone be up for a trip to the away end to give him a send off?
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 02:15:31 (PST)
Oh well the shit has hit the fan, to me if its an exit strategy then its fine. I would rather have a team with Jupp, Gore etc in being owned by thre fans and democratically accountable than have a tean with five or six internationals playing in Milton Keynes.(That is to say havign no team at all imho) If its not an exit strategy then Charlie boy you better start lookign for one because you are gonna need it. The Club isnt a collection of palyers at any predefined time it isnt Koppel and his mates, its us. For the last eleven years we have had no ground to call home, no chairman that has made any attempt to find us one, and our best players have always been sold. Right now we have all three and an utterly bitter screwed up man as chairman who is not only selling our best players but doing so to our potential promotion rivals for a pittance. If we come out the other side of this then I will be delighted if we dont then its over for good. As for ITV Digital I would say the League have taken the right approach, basically the government and ITV are not going to allow it to go to the wall simply because to do so would hand Murdoch a virtual monopoly. Oh and \t the moment I will not be siuttign downb shutting up and supportign the team I 'll be the one sdhoutign We want Koppel out for 90 minutes at the remainder of what might be our last season. I will be the one doing whatefer it takes to cut thiscancer out of our Club. I am confident I will not be alone in this respect
Sean Fox
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 02:12:57 (PST)
Paul, I dont even think Chris can be our boss, we normally turn up and tell him what to do!! :-) Just to let you know that I played the ISS on my widescreen and it was amazing. My mate had Maradona in the team and every time he got the ball I decked him!!!! I kept saying thats for the World Cup you SUMO!!! Oh yeah, BTW you got of level 2 yet????
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 02:06:18 (PST)
BW - On that basis surley my ultimate bosses is KJR? :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 01:25:59 (PST)
BW, I did ays that I would of thought £1.6M would of been better, but we are not really in a strong position to bargain. Oh well lets look forward to who we lose today lads.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 01:10:12 (PST)
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