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Paul and Stu, the 'ask him club shop guys' was not ment to be a dig. But I know that he has in the past been in to see you guys. I tried to see him before the stockport game, but he was too busy skiing.... wonder where the money for that came from.
Peter Bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 15:55:10 (PST)
Stuart, I do agree with some of what you say, but two hundred thousand profit on a player of Cooper's ability? That's taking the piss.
Brighton Womble
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 15:02:31 (PST)
Paul, if everyone used that as an excuse, there'd be no such thing as collective responsibility. Sorry to use this term - it's purely to illustrate - but the monkey is as culpable as the organ grinder IMO. You work for WFC, Chris Draper is your line manager, ultimate responsibility lies with Koppel, therefore he is, ultimately, your boss.
Brighton Womble
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 15:00:19 (PST)
Paul, your boss is destroying your football club, DO YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT?
Koppel Out
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 14:58:55 (PST)
Wayne Gray off to Brighton on loan until end of season, Ga.com off to Preston on loan until end of season, how many more, well only another 19 and a half hours for Koppell to do his worst
Wibbly Don
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 13:42:45 (PST)
If ITV Digital need to get money in fast they should launch "the monkey" range of products. You could have them being sold in all toy stores and it would be the toy of 2002 they could be out bidding sky in a matter of weeks :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 11:09:36 (PST)
Just back in from being out all day so trying to catch up on all the posts - My call on the "sam vs current transfer dealings" is that sam was selling players at the peak of a market I think even if sam was in charge of the Dons at the mo "and needed" to sell players we would of got no where near the sums we did in the past.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 11:07:12 (PST)
Pete - regarding talking to CK surley you could ask one of your pals at the HBRA to talk to CK :) (Sorry mate too tempting)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 11:01:11 (PST)
BW - As I have mentioned before as far as i'm concerned my boss is Chris Draper so if you think he is responsible for the planned move to MK then fair enough :) - Stu not been about all day and so havent had time to delete any post anyway I only do it by acident ask Wibbly Don and Martin D I dont know if you have been playing too much ISS on your 32 inch but I think I can see the post they were talking about look again :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 10:33:05 (PST)
everyone else does seem to sit back (maybe we are boring them?). What I would like to have seen from the club this season (concerning on the pitch matters) would have been some kind of statement concerning our ambition, whether it was promotion we were after, survival, playoffs something to let us know what their on pitch aims were, it would have made it a lot clearer. consider this timeline of events with my assumptions in brackets....Mar 2001 - sign well respected div 1 player for £800k (big playoff push) May 2001 sell top striker (balance books and get decent fee) June 2001 sign well respected div 1 striker and international striker (looks promising, we are really looking for promotion) July 2001 sign promising young striker and well respected div 1 defender (2 good looking signings improve squad size and quality), Nov 2001 sign vastly experienced international midfielder ( season not going too well and this should get things back on track) Jan 2002 announce massive losses that have sneaked up all of a sudden and try and sell any player we can to main rivals Mar 2002 sell well respected div 1 player to potential playoff rival who has surely upped his value in a year where he has scored 15 goals in 40 odd games from midfield (reason??)
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 09:38:37 (PST)
Hutch, I understand the frustration and I have it too. but you say we have no ambition, well its hard to have ambition at the moment with all the stuff that is going on. I dont want to chase a dream that is not possible to catch. I would rather we stabalise the ship and keep the club able to survive for many years to come. Its good to have ambitions, but at the moment I would just settle for the club I love surviving. Why is it us two that always seem to argue on this site. Everyone sits back and lets us discuss and argue. At least you fight your corner with no agression. Good on ya. Your still bloody wrong though :-)
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 09:26:30 (PST)
Stu - I didn't know Euell had a pick of clubs and was only aware of interest from Charlton. I totally agree that we are not going to get big money at the moment but do you seriously think £1m for Hartson, £1m for Trond, £1m for Coops are realistic? regardless of what other clubs get for their players. anyway I fancy WBA to pip Wolves to 2nd place and Wolves to lose in the play-offs. Peanuts for the likes of Robinson, Selley, Thomas, Kimble, Jupp etc is acceptable as they have nothing to offer WFC, peanuts for Coops is unacceptable because a)he is one of our best players b) he has been TB's first choice in his time at WFC c) we have sold him to a rival d) any club with any ambition of going up at any point needs to build a side not sell one
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 09:17:52 (PST)
Hutch, everyone knows Euell had a pick of clubs, and from what I know he picked Charlton because they were London based. Rememeber Cooper is 27 and I think Koumas is a lot younger. I personally dont think Cooper will make it in the premiership and will find his way back into the Nationwide. Sam turned down bids because he was always in the driving seat and we had some bloddy god players to sell. Concerning the Chairman and TB, they seem to conflict each others statements, so I never know who TB wants to keep or wants to get rid of. And also if the chairman wants to sell a player he will do it with or without the managers permission. It wont be the first and it wont be the last.. I think we get carried away with these big transfer fees, and think that because we used to get millions in the Premiership for players that we must get the same for our players now. The players are just not in the same catagories as previous stars we had
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 09:06:48 (PST)
Sam was a good businessman who was particularly good at running a football club. Koppel is a crap businessman who is particularly bad at running a football club. With today's news about ITV Digital, the Nogs and Mr.Koppel are seeing their MK Dons fantasy going up in smoke. It CANNOT work without substantial TV money. Some time soon they will work out that the only future for WFC as a business is to court the several thousand loyal customers that they still (somehow) have, or more likely, simply piss off.
Martin D
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:56:49 (PST)
Stu - Sam was always turning down offers for players if he thought they were not right for WFC. What you are really saying about Cooper is that he was not worth the money we paid for him, he is definitely worth at least £2m in today's market (Koumas £2.4m?). The reason I mentioned Euell was because we sold him for good money when in div 1 (if he had a pick of prem clubs why Charlton?)same as HH, why all of a sudden are we accepting peanuts for players who strongly figure in the manager's plans and rebuilding plans?
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:54:58 (PST)
Peter, we dont see CK so you will have to ask him yourself.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:37:53 (PST)
Regarding the Sam issue of whether he would of sold Cooper for 1m. Well he was never put in that situation and always had the upper hand on the barganing table. We got some great transfer fees because we could hold out untill the last possible moment and then take our pick of offers. I would say that £1.6 million plus £400,000 based on appearences would of been a great deal for Cooper
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:35:31 (PST)
Re: all this. Yes we have players on too high a salary, yes we have too many players, yes - we may even be losing 20,000 pounds a day. It's perfectly possibly to reason that because of this we need to sell all our players. But look at it from the other side. Charles Koppel is reonsible for all these things. He's had pretty much two seasons to get the house in order, but he's done the opposite. They can't afford for us to get promoted because then the club won't need to go to Milton Keynes. A lot of people thought that they would kill the club by shooting it in the head, they're not going that route... in stead they're starving it to death, and it's slow and painful for us all. WFC is going to shrivle up and they're laughing all the way to the bank. If anyone here sees Mr Koppel (shop guys in particular) ask him how much richer he is because of his involvement with Wimbledon FC.
Peter Bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:35:02 (PST)
Hutch, you cant put Euell in the same conversation as Cooper!!! Euell was class and could of had his pick of many clubs in the Premiership. Jenus, in my mind was a out of the ordinary bid for a player that has done nothing yet. Carsley had Premiership experience, which is my point. I agree that we should get more for Trond, but remember he didnt perform great in that relegation team. I know it was his first year and I seriously believe he can cut it in the top league. But most in our first team will not cut it in the top division. Name me the players that you think could perform in the Premiership??
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:31:57 (PST)
Stu - we have had a similar discussion before - Trond has international and Premier league experience and is arguably at least as good as HH and we tried to sell him for £1m which proves my point that something is not right. We sold Euell only months ago so you can't say we can't command what we used to. No club in our position brings in a player with the intention of making a loss - in a few weeks time we will have 18 fewer wages to pay, the season finishes in 25 days!! why not wait until then? on W&WW today you asked what a reasonable fee for Coops was I would say £2m would be reasonable considering Carsley was sold to Everton for £4m and Jenas to Newcastle for £5m. would Hamman have sold Coops for £1m?
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:25:02 (PST)
Hutch, I swear we have had this discussion about HH and Euell and all the other players we sold once relegated. We cant command the transfer fees we did a couple of years ago. All those players had premiership experience. I think we sometimes think the players we have now are better than what they are. I doubt very much if Cooper is good enough for the premiership and I could name quite a few first team regulars who I dont think would make it there either. Cooper has always played in the lower leagues, so how can we comand a big transfer fee when Wolves also know we have no money and have to sell.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:08:28 (PST)
But Rob - we signed Cooper when we were in the first division from a first division side - he will not have been on big money (£4k a week maybe) and will have probably worked out as a loss to WFC (i.e. £800k plus over £200k in wages). We sold Euell while in div 1, we sold HH while in div 1 and got £10m for the 2, had Trond and Moran gone we could have raked in an amazing £3.7m for the 3 does this add up? "Wolves know that we need the money and will not pay big bucks" whatever happened to the WFC that said "if you want our players you buy them on our terms not yours?"
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 07:24:48 (PST)
Okay, I'm not defending Koppel. Quick point. BUT - _I'M_ not surprised that the sale of Cooper has taken place. I'm also not surprised by the value. Reason? Wolves know that we need the money, so ain't gonna pay big bucks. We are NOT a premier club so cannot push for premier sales IYKWIM. We ARE (billionare owners or no) in financial poo. We need cash flow, but we haven't got any at the minute. We still have Premier League wages paid out to mid-table 1st Division players. As Dorothy once said "Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore", and fellas - "We ain't in the premier anymore, either"
Robert Paulson
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 07:09:32 (PST)
Stu - thing is when we bought Coops we had Karlsson, Gayle, Hughesie and Morgan up and coming this is what I don't get, when we bought Mild we had 10 players who could play in his position (this was only a couple of months ago) so why all of a sudden are we selling players for what we paid for them? - we have tried to sell Morgan already and I am sure Koppell will try again after he has played a few games......WHEN YOU ARE IN WITH A SHOUT OF GOING UP YOU DO NOT SELL YOUR 1ST CHOICE PLAYERS! in 8 days time we could be in the top 6, in 18 days time Coops could score against us and put us out of the top 6!
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 07:07:22 (PST)
Maybe the Nogs have realised that MK will not be allowed, and they've just instructed Koppell to get whatever he can for the current squad before pulling the plug totally? A week ago I thought CK was being so smug because he knew something meaning MK was in the bag, now I'm not so sure (he'd surely get a big payoff either way). Either that or the whole lot have just gone totally mad and don't have a clue what they are doing!
Edinburgh Don
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 06:26:47 (PST)
Nick, I think its a case of us surviving altogether. We knew all along that we would be getting rid of players. I didnt think we would be getting rid of them for below the market value of the players. But, If we go into Adminstration, this will happen anyway and alot quicker than we are doing it. I saw the administration thing with QPR as my best mate supports them and it is worrying. Apparently they had to get rid of Stuart Wardley to Rusdhden and Diamonds because he was the highest wage earner left. He was on £900 per week!!!!! What would happen to our team. The administrators just do a job and get a stable ship. They dont care about the fans opinions, just facts. It is depressing and it has been the worst season I can rememeber as a fan, but every cloud has a silver lining, lets hope ours is soon approaching!!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 06:23:42 (PST)
Hutch, I understand mate, and to be honest I was depressed when I found out last night about cooper going. I can only assume we sold on the knowledge we have lionel as a more than capable replacement. I suppose we cant afford to have competition for places anymore and we will have a strong 13 and the rest will be acadamy players. I just cant wait to get to 5pm tommorow night and hopefully still have the main starts still at the club. Concerning Connelly, Shipperley and Mild, I suppose we se them more long term and as we signed Connelly on a free transfer we will easy get atleast 3-4 million for him, so it is good business keeping him, especially if he has a good World cup. I dont want to see him go, but I will be amazed if he is the starting line up for our first game next season
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 06:16:46 (PST)
Stu, not only that but traditionally we've seen our 'best' player leave for a lot of money, which was ok because we a) Needed the money and us fans understood and b) more importantly we always had an up and coming replacement. This is different, Koppel simply doesn't care who is sold or even for how much. He doesn't care who Terry wants to keep, if Koppout had had his way we would have sold or loaned our best 6 players by now for just a couple of million total. Not the actions of a chairman who genuinely wants his club to succeed.
Nick
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 06:14:52 (PST)
Stu - I know what you are saying and agree to an extent but why are we selling now? 30 days before the end of the season (while still a chance of the playoffs and the PL with all of it's cash!), weeks before we will be saving £xk a week through contracts running out and why are we selling a player signed such a short time ago by Koppell for a fee that is definitely not enough ? also since Coops signed for us we have brought in Connolly (£18k a week) Shipps, Darlo, Mild (8k a week) and Nowland. something does not add up - anyone can see that
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 05:59:39 (PST)
Paul, have you deleted some posts, because I cant see what R don and Hutch are responding to from Rob Paulson???
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 05:54:11 (PST)
Hutch, R Don, I am also angry that we haave lost another player so soon after Hughsie, but I also think it would have been hard to keep KC once he knew Wolves were interested. Concerning the way WFC have previously done transfers is correct, but we are in a different division now and the transfer market is alot different than it used to be. 1) we are not in control of our finances anymore. Previously, we only sold when we had to and were willing to do business. 2) We are losing alot more money than we ever have. Regardless of what CK says, we all know that we must be losing money, because of gates etc. 3) The ITV digital deal is colapsing around our feet. If teams like Birmingham are panicking, god knows what is going to happen to us.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 05:50:42 (PST)
And your second point about being the lowest supported Premier League team is true simply because we don't have a home ground in our own area. If we did, things would obviously be a lot different.
R Don
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 05:21:49 (PST)
Rob Paulson - selling Coops could not be further than any other sale we have ever made. We traditionally have been a selling club, but we have always sold our players at the top of their value and usually in the Summer (not with 6 games to go where 5 wins (possible) would put us in the playoffs). Cort? Euell? Thatcher? Perry? Holdsworth? HH? Barton? Leo? we paid about £4m for all of these put together, got the best out of all of them and sold them for a combined £35m app when it suited us - Cooper was bought for £800k and sold for a tiny bit more less than a year later seemingly over the manager's head - that is not the way WFC have operated in the transfer market over the years, I am not saying we could have got £5m for him but £2m would definitely been possible and what is wrong in waiting for 1 month before selling him?
Hutch
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 05:17:33 (PST)
R Paulson - he is breaking the team up because he is trying to sell every fcuking player we've got! He has also tried to sell Damo, Hughes,Trond, Lionel & Kenny in the last few weeks unless you hadn't noticed. That is our six best players if you ask me. I think Koppout is running scared of promotion as his pleas of poverty will then be invalid. I just cannot comprehend people who continue to defend Koppel.
R Don
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 05:17:12 (PST)
Cant see Kelvin going to Villa before the transfer deadline day as he is still getting over his injury and is only back in light training today. He has a lower back injury which makes it very painful to kick anything. Kimble to Liecester will happen once they sell a reserve player. Cant see Birmingham purchasing any new players as they have stop negotiations with current players concerning extended contracts. The others I have not heard before and the one concerning McAnuff to Palace I hope is a big wind up
stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 03:02:14 (PST)
To go before deadline day: Kelvin - Villa. Kimble - Leicester. Ageymang - Millwall. Morgan - Leeds. Shipperley -Cardiff. Francis - Brum. Anderson - Southampton. Ardley - Boro. Cunningham - Villa. McAnuff - Palace.
Someone at work just told me these are the deals that will happen before deadline day. I can only see 2 or 3 of them happening but he assures me they all will. McAnuff to Palace just better not happen! I haven't heard that one anywhere until today and Koppell will be a marked man if that happened!!
Jamie
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 01:58:20 (PST)
ED - I fail to see how CK is 'breaking the team up'. Selling Coops is similar to all we've ever done to survive. The selling of our talent is the ONLY reason we are still in business. It's time to face facts, we are not, support-wise, anywhere NEAR a premier league club, and the knock-on effect is that we now need all the income we can get. Here's a thing, with Southampton getting their new ground, we (if we returned to the premier) would have the worst average crowd by a mile. How sad.
Robert Paulson
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 01:53:08 (PST)
Be fair, Brighton; Koppell isn't the 'only man trying to uproot us'. For a start it's his guv'nors in Oslo, we all know CK is just their puppet. What were Dublin, Cardiff, Hull and the merger with Celtic (yes he even went that far!) if they weren't attempts by Sam to uproot the club. Lets not forget that Mr. Noades tried MK as well when he owned us. Sad fact is that none of our 'owners' past or present really saw the potential in our club, didn't want to invest any serious cash and shafted us. Where was this potential I speak of? Where have all these 'loyal' Fulham and Chelsea supporters suddenly sprung from? When we first reached Div 1/Prem both FFC and CFC were attracting poor crowds. The people were there to be won over and they were allowed to slip through the net. Now we see our last chance for survival being dismantled before our eyes. Koppell knows that if we reached the playoffs and won our prem place back, that all his 'poverty pleas' would be wasted breath (guaranteed sell-outs V ManUtd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool, lots of lovely Sky money etc). He needs us to stay in Div1, so we continue to get crap gates and less TV money, and move closer to the edge. What chairman in their right mind would destroy a side so close to reaching the playoffs? One that doesn't give a monkey's about the club and is just after a quick buck perhaps.
Edinburgh Don
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 11:40:22 (PST)
AH, yes. Sam Hammam, the man who's trying to take us to Milton Keynes. I agree to an extent with your point, Paul, but there's only one man responsible for trying to uproot us, and that's your boss, Paul.
Brighton Womble
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 11:08:18 (PST)
Rick - Prime example of that was yesterday's evening standard which did a story about "players want to move to MK" the "quotes" were over a week old and were from AK and Michael Hughes both who look like they are leaving the club. It's sloppy journalisim and no matter how much we complain the majority of the nationals are not bothered about us.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 05:55:34 (PST)
Intresting quote that last one although Merton council might not of always given 100% support for the club I think the vast majority of the blame can lie at the feet of one ex Wimbledon owner and now trying to do very similar stuff down in the valleys!!
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 05:06:00 (PST)
Paul your comment about people posting old quotes without the dates is absolutely right, but that is exactly what the media do all the time; except that they normally surround the quote with recent references that make the quote sound current.
Rick C (webmaster@superdons.co.uk)
London, - Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 05:01:50 (PST)
As the fifth best football club in England over the last 11 years, we deserve a stadium worthy of our status and that stadium should be in only one place. Wimbledon FC belongs in Wimbledon. That is our birth right and it is where every true supporter wants to see us return. However, over the past 20 years, we have been treated very badly, often callously, by the one body that can make that happen. What Merton Council did to us in that period can be summed up in one word. Shameful. From our first attempt to improve Plough Lane in 1987 to the saga of Wandle Valley South, to Beddington Lane, to Raynes Park and Morden, I feel we have been mistreated and betrayed. Harsh words but, sadly, true. There is no point though, in opening up old wounds. The Council has a new leader and perhaps he can inspire a new willingness to bring about the means for us to return. That is our dream and for as long as it remains a realistic possibility no other option will be considered. But Merton Council must truly want us. There can be no more FALSE PROMISES and TOKEN GESTURES. It's time to help us build a stadium that does justice to our club. Or it is time for the painful but frank admission that they cannot find us a home.
fancy THAT!
Sam Hammam, 9th August 1997, - Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 01:57:45 (PST)
To "Fancy That" if you continue to be a child like the way you are acting on this site I will delete any future posts that you make unless they are of relevance. Hope you can understand this!!
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 01:41:41 (PST)
' I would yet again like to remind people that this is a family based site' , where's the girls then ?
fancy this
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 13:46:00 (PST)
I know Reg, and he can be a cantankerous old sod. I'm not defending what he says about Dons fans, but I can understand why he says these things - the reason being what Al said. Reg is the least of our problems. Let him whinge about the fans, just ignore it and concentrate on the board.
Edinburgh Don
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 11:49:06 (PST)
Bryter - Nice to see you in the guestbook. Heres to winning millions and buying the club :) - The following weekend will see if we can make the play-offs with games against Rotherham, Sheff U and Crewe if we get 9 points we will really be putting the pressure on the teams above us but I will be surprised if we make it.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 11:01:23 (PST)
Paulnray, I tried to reply to your PM through the Punter's Lounge, but I received an error message. Yes, I am a Wimbledon fan, and I have been so since 1985. The result on Saturday was very bad. Grimsby have certainly improved, but I had hoped for play-off... We were both 1-0 and 2-1 up as well. I have visited your site previously too, I actually found it through the Punter's Lounge. My bets have gone well lately, though not so good on Saturday...
Bryter
Bryter
Norway - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 10:57:55 (PST)
I have decided to start working at the club shop again.
Fancy that!
Stuart Deacons, Man of principle - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 09:38:48 (PST)
I have resigned from the club shop.
Fancy that!
Stuart Deacons, - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 09:38:20 (PST)
It was him..... I Saw it! :)
Oh, if anyone's interested, Mr Charles Koppel is a low-down lying scumbag.
Peter Bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 07:02:00 (PST)
Pete - But when people post quotes on sites everyone thinks they are current quotes and everyone gets "excited" about what they are going to do. A prime example of this is that about a month ago on WISA someone posted that the bbc site had a "Should we go to MK" poll and everyone rushed over to vote on it, it turns out the poll was from August 2001, if people know that these are old quotes they can say yes we are aware of these. Anyway it wouldn't surprise me if Stu Deacons got blamed for posting them!! :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 06:30:27 (PST)
Paul, It's not me posting those quotes, but I do think it's good for us all to be reminded how two-faced some of the people who have been involved with all this stuff over the last year or two
Peter Bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, Wimbledon Wimbledon - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 04:46:36 (PST)
To the person posting as "Fancy That" these are all old quotes that you are positing if you have to post them (and to be honest their is no point) add the date that they were made on them. We have all read them and are all aware of them if you dont have anything interesting to say dont bother posting.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 02:46:59 (PST)
Cheers Paul for the post, I have been away for teh weekend and had no Internet access. As I have said many times, I always use my own name as I will always back up my opinion in person. Its not as if I hide from anyone anyway as I am in the shop on Matchdays. There is no place to hide in there. Many thanks !!!!!!!!!!
stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 02:09:23 (PST)
The Haydons Bridge Residents Association Press Release asks all enquiries to be directed to Sandra Clegg on 020 7396 3581.
Sandra Clegg works at Brunswick PR Ltd. on the Wimbledon Football Club Limited account
Fancy that!
- Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 15:06:32 (PST)
The Club would like to discuss with the Official Wimbledon Fans Forum the many issues that surround the move to a new home. The forum will have direct and regular access to the Board of the Club.
Fancy that!
Unless Charles is on a skiing holiday, - Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 15:03:36 (PST)
In the absence of an alternative and immediate solution of this kind - and none has been forthcoming - we do not believe the Club can survive. I think it is also important to clarify that our proposals have always included the assurance that our existing fan base would be given every opportunity and afforded all practical assistance in order to make the journey to home games in Milton Keynes.
Fancy that!
- Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 15:00:28 (PST)
"We remain convinced that the move to Milton Keynes is the only possible way in which the club can survive and thrive. This has always been our sole concern. We still hope that we can achieve the move harmoniously in liaison with The Football League and with our fans."
Charles CocKpull (iammad@the-asylum.co.uk)
- Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 14:59:17 (PST)
However, we have made a commitment to the club, its
staff, players and supporters to ensure that the future of
Wimbledon Football Club is protected and we have made this
difficult decision with all stakeholders in mind. We will set up
working groups with the supporter organisations to examine ways
in which you can be an integral part of the building process of
your club.
Fancy That!
- Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 14:56:04 (PST)
We will of
course work closely with supporter groups to ensure that we do
as much as possible to allow you to continue to support
Wimbledon Football Club. We also fully intend to meet all our
commitments to our Local Community, Youth and Academy programmes.
Fancy That!
- Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 14:55:00 (PST)
Just remember that if you feel any sympathy for Reg Davis, he doesn't have any sympathy for you. During the Dublin protests, he called people "moaners", and said totally off the record that "most of that lot never went to Plough Lane" so their views didn't count. And at FU day, he reportedly called those in the Arthur Waite stand "troublemakers". That's what he really thinks of all of us, don't make yourself look an idiot by trying to defend him.
REPD (repd@repd.net)
Also not feeling very charitable, - Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 13:08:39 (PST)
That's right, Al, I feel really sorry for Reg Davis. You must be joking mate. I have no sympathy whatsoever.
Brighton Womble
Not feeling very charitable, - Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 09:45:55 (PST)
For all the scottish wombles out their (and anyone else who wants to read it) just found this on the bbc site about Aidrie who are in financial problems - "Airdrie's whole squad was this week ordered by a sheriff to do community service for a year because the club was unable to afford a fine for a breach of planning regulations." - can you just imagine that happening at a English first division or premiership club.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 03:28:34 (PST)
I heard that Kelvin was picked up a back injury during training I hope thats the correct version of events. If Villa are to make a move for him I would imagine it would be during the summer as it looks like Schmeichael will be off then.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 02:46:52 (PST)
Maybe a bit of a stoopid question, but anyone got any idea of where Stuart Murdoch used to be head master - I've got a bet with a mate to see who can find quickest...
soton_don (lerqy@genie.co.uk)
southampton, hants england - Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 16:58:48 (PST)
Be fair Brighton, Reg hasn't got a lot of choice except to toe the party line, has he? If he doesn't he's looking for a job the wrong side of 60, think about it.
Honest Al
- Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 13:41:49 (PST)
Last week I was posting here saying what a good day I had as the Dons won, Hearts won, and Palace lost all on the same day. What a stormer I had today.....
Edinburgh Don
- Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 13:39:35 (PST)
Anyone, why wasn't Kelvin playing today, is it true re Aston Vila???
Wibbly Don
- Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 11:14:10 (PST)
To the person who posted as "Reg Davis" it's a bit rich having a go at someone who hasn't used their own name. I have an idea who it is and am sure that the LC person wasn't Stu as he always uses his own name and has said so in the past. Just because someone uses exclamation marks and bad spelling dont link it to someone thanks!!!
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 11:03:06 (PST)
What is going on with kelvin davis? why is Koppel ringing up clubs and trying to offload them when hardly any of them wanna leave? poor wild thing, coops, trond..even kenny. i know we need money but by selling our key players how will we get back to the premier league?
Confused Don
London, - Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 09:40:33 (PST)
Read the man's programme notes and you'll see what I mean. He's the one who wrote a diatribe about the 'roots' of football being dismantled by greed etc and still supports MK. Fool.
Brighton Womble
- Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 09:06:01 (PST)
I don't support Wolves. Honest
Reg Davis
Thanks Stuart Deacons. Or should I say, 'loose cannon' (The exclamation marks and spelling errors are a dead giveaway), - Saturday, March 23, 2002 at 09:03:15 (PST)
IHP - nice to have you back again!
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Friday, March 22, 2002 at 14:46:07 (PST)
Loose Canon - you're a provocative son of a camel aren't you? If we - the fans, the community, local business - had control of marketing, my firm recommendation would be to put it ALL in the hands of Jonesy. The guy is good and a true and loyal Don through and through. Which, by your cretinous comments, you clearly aren't.
inane hopeless protestor (ihp@ihp.com)
no seriously, Wimbledon - Friday, March 22, 2002 at 12:27:48 (PST)
BW, where does the Black Country bit come from? Reg Davis is London born.
TW
- Friday, March 22, 2002 at 10:22:29 (PST)
Dont know if anyone has read the article on the Guardian's
web site today about sport and TV revenue well worth a look at.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,672044,00.html
I have started reading a book called the premiership by Chris
Horrie today all about the role of TV although only about 20 pages
in, its a very good read.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, March 22, 2002 at 07:12:22 (PST)
BW - have you ever spoken to Reg? and on what basis do you come up with that last statement about it being like a leech from the black country?
Ralph Malph
- Friday, March 22, 2002 at 01:37:27 (PST)
So, speaking to Reg is slightly more pleasant than listening to your opinions, Brighton? ;-)
Edinburgh Don
- Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 13:16:45 (PST)
Hope you cleaned your phone afterwards.
Brighton Womble
Speaking to Reg must be like having a leech glued to your earhole (one from the Black Country), - Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 09:48:40 (PST)
Poor Attendance Hurts Kings MK Kings game V Dundee Stars on Saturday produced Kings' lowest attendance figure since November 3rd and 4th when Kings were competing against the CMK firework display and 'Dundee Stars'!, and a double home fixture. Chief Executive of MK Ice Hockey Promotions Ltd, Mike Darnell said "I can understand fans feelings, Kings have competed well with every other team but Dundee seem to be in a different league, unfortunately the facts are that with around 450 people less attending than the previous Saturday it is badly below our break even point and it hurts the Kings revenues massively, it's also right at the end of the season when we were hoping for higher rather than lower numbers. It again points right to the heart of the problem facing several teams in the FBNL, unless something is done to keep teams abiding to the spirit of the FBNL wage guideline agreement I am concerned that there will be several teams who won't be able cope financially in this league next season and I include the Kings in that number"
Brighton Womble
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha., - Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 09:44:29 (PST)
R Don - i didn't say anything about atmosphere - what I did say was that if the club was marketed properly through the 90's together with the success we had in that time we could and IMO should of increased the fanbase by 5000 odd, the marketing was and is so poor it is a wonder that we ever attract any new fans - disregarding all of the other shit that is going on of course
Hutch
- Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 04:50:48 (PST)
I have spoken with Reg Davis this morning. Terry is due to have his operation this morning. The procedure sounds rather unpleasant. Apparently the doctors do not expect to remove the appendix.
Send cards and flowers c/o Stuart Murdoch at the
training ground. The florists to use are Seasons Florists, 253 Coombe Lane, London SW20 0RH Tel 020 8947 6654. Roger Lawrence, the proprietor, is an Arsenal supporter, so don't give him too much grief.
Alternatively, cards and flowers can be sent to the WFC office, since the first team will depart for Grimsby at
lunchtime on Friday.
Let Terry know that we are thinking of him.
Wandle Don
- Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 03:25:29 (PST)
know someone who works for you lot. apparently you all think 'arry bassett is great. if so do you want the senile gibbering fool back? probably be passing you on the way down.
Fox_Boy
Stoneygate, Leicester, - Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 01:37:51 (PST)
Hutch - It's not a cop out at all. selhurst has NEVER had a decent atmosphere simply because for the majority of Dons fans it has NEVER felt like home, it's never felt like worth 'defending' by creating a loud atmos. IMO the only reason our crowds increased in the 90's is because a) we had a half decent team & b) the tickets were the cheapest around.
R Don
- Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 01:26:48 (PST)
Loose Canon - are you on drugs? What is the matter with you, you can not defend the way the Club used to be marketed, such opportunities were missed. In my time the Marketing of the Club was p**s poor, however there has been a few noticable differences since the summer. I wonder why that is? :0) As for the overall marketing of the thing, nothing will get better until the public perception of the club is improved. To many, WFC still resembles a non-league mickey mouse outfit. I know we are are not though at times I wonder. As REPD say's there has to be an out pouring of professionalism from them. Let's face it Chelsea were nothing until they changed their image. They used to be thought of as thugs (which we know they still are) but the rest of the country view them as some sort of trendy outfit. More and more CFC shirts pop up around the country now. Yes they have won a couple of trophies but the image has totally changed. Until we do that, nothing will improve.
Ralph Malph
- Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 01:20:24 (PST)
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