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Stuart - and Ralph - is that it's people like you who start suggesting notions of a WISA 'party line', not me - nor, indeed anyone else I know in WISA. Merely that I am sure of what I think doesn't mean that I am towing some sort of official line. Might I ask a) are you a member and b) how involved, if at all, you are? Not saying you have to be headlong into it all, but maybe if you showed a little less ignorance and demonstrated that you at least knew a little about what you say, you might not look so petty. It's so easy to have a pop at the organisation that has lead the fight against MK. Like it or not - and some who do not will still, I am sure, agree with me here - WISA has kept this battle alive and winnable. That's down to a) just how democratic it actually is and b) as a consequence, because of it's members and because they are not scared to speak up, and why should they be? As for insulting, Stuart, I don't need to engage in the type of childish bluster that you do. Paul, as for re-hashing that SLP piece, I write for its own sake, and I had fun doing it :-)
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 15:52:07 (PST)
Would that be Jamie pretending to be Vic by any chance anyway lets leave Stu alone now.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 13:34:50 (PST)
I've assessed the Stuart Deacon's Debate and have come to the conclusion that he is GAY!! And what is the point of putting ":-)" after everything..its not funny or clever it's just GAY!!!!!!
Vicky (vix@fcuk-me.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:03:12 (PST)
RM - shouldn't that e-mail address have .com at the end of it :) - I think we should drop this line of discussion :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 09:46:22 (PST)
MD - again my first name is of no consequence. My wooly ideas? Why are they wooly? Is it because they dare question yours and that of WISA. Why should I beleive what WISA or MC say? Why could the club not be telling the truth? The whole thing has gone beyond a joke. What proof do you have, concrete proof, that PL could actually happen? Don't tell me MC have said they will make it happen. The ultimate decision is with the Government. Besides Judge D may not be in charge too much longer. Too many people are putting faith in people whose only real authority is to change the days on which rubbish is collected. Just look at the reaction about Pravda & the official offering. Lets face it neither are important, no-one is really bothered. Y&B tries to claim it tells the truth the whole thruth and nothing but the truth. Please... I think the production is fantastic and have nothing but praise for the people who make it happen (inc BW), but the self congratulations that accompanies it is almost sickening. Chris Phillips page - just like Reg's rambling's. Both use it as a method of self publicity and name dropping - I ask you who gives a monkey's? MD you seem to giving the club up - me i'll still be there 'cos in a perverse way I go for the football.
Ralph Malph (Hatton)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 09:32:51 (PST)
So Ralph, that's not even your real name then? What are YOU trying to hide? What exactly is YOUR agenda? You don't irritate me at all, I'd just like to know where you get your woolly ideas from (e.g. the very idea that you can even compare an independent poll costing thousands and carried out by one of the foremost research organisations in the country with a mickey-mouse select and click SLP web-site one) And you seem to love portraying WISA as some sort of Stalinistic indoctrination group whereas it is completely democratic and regularly publishes full minutes of its meetings and its accounts. Please contrast that with WFC who do neither. If you think WISA is wrong, please join and come along to a meeting to put your point of view. Are you allowed to do this with WFC BTW? Stop hiding behind a made-up name and be a big man about it. There's a word for someone who posts without possession of any of the FACTS, it's ignorant.
Martin D
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 08:37:08 (PST)
Stuart - it would appear you have rightened everyone else off this guestbook!!!!!
Ralph Malph (iapologiseforupsetingbrightonwomble@razzle.stickypages)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 08:35:10 (PST)
So Jamie, what do you want to discuss about JK or Drillo???? And jamie I am 26 not 76!!! SCHOOLBOY ERROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 07:03:05 (PST)
Sam? In love with himself maybe?
Edinburgh Don
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 06:26:24 (PST)
Anyone think it's us SH loves or the fact he walked away with £8 million for plough lane?
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 06:11:10 (PST)
Here's something that should make you laugh from http://www.valleyrams.com/ who seem to type all in capitals a meeting they had with Sam and includes the following quote. - "ONE FAN ASKED HIM ABOUT WHAT HE THOUGHT OF WIMBLEDON. HE SAID THAT THIS WAS HIS BABY AND HE SPENT 22 YEARS THERE AND HE STILL LOVES IT. HE SAID THAT A CLUB LIKE WIMBLEDON NEED SOMEONE TO LOOK AFTER THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE SMALL, THEY ARE A BABY. HE SAYS THAT WHEN HE WAS AT WIMBLEDON HE NEVER CHARGED THEM, HE ALWAYS PAID FOR HIS SEAT AND FOR HIS HOTELS. HE SAYS CARDIFF CITY IS LIKE A GROWN UP AND ALL IT NEEDS IT FOR SOMEONE TO STEER IT, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. HE SAYS AS SOON AS CARDIFF CITY GETS THE NEW STADIUM, THAT YOU WON’T NEED ME HE SAID WIMBLEDON WERE A NON LEAGUE SIDE PLAYING IN THE PREMIERSHIP AND CARDIFF CITY WERE A PREMIERSHIP SIDE PLAYING IN DIVISION 3. "
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 06:06:37 (PST)
I think we should start the Joe Kinnear debate, Olsen debate, is Michael Hughes the best player at the club debate and is Stuart Deacons really gay debate, just for fun! What do u think?
Jamie (jamieweir@fcuk-me.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 04:56:05 (PST)
Good point Jamie I forgot about that :) - anyway see Millwall trip to Sheff U is off tonight due to waterhogs wonder if RJM will go anywhere else tonight :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 04:45:08 (PST)
Paul - U may be older but u don't look 76 do u?!?!
Jamie (jamieweir@fcuk-me.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 04:31:06 (PST)
Jamie - Less of the Old when you talk about Stu he's younger than me :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 04:28:13 (PST)
Jamie, you funny little man!!! Well that always how Vicky refers to you :-) I know loads about football my friend. ie: Wimbledon are great with the football, but dire pants when we have to chase it!!!!!
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 04:15:17 (PST)
Paul R - But Stu isn't funny!! He is old and homosexual!!
Jamie (jamieweir@fcuk-me.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 03:56:21 (PST)
BW - For someone who's not bothered about a "silly little poll" you spent some time doing your rewrite. I think you are well aware that most of us on here can take a joke we have read enough of Stu's posts to know that :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 03:55:17 (PST)
STOP annoying people Stu!!! U R a very irritating young man yourself and I suggest that u leave the lovely BW alone! Why do u wanna talk about football anyway? You dont know nothing about it!!
Jamie (jamieweir@fcuk-me.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 03:54:01 (PST)
MD - whether Ralph is my real name or not is of no consequence and if I'm irratating you then I apologise. So this SLP poll is not being taken into account then, but the ICM one is. I can see that the ICM one probably is more valid, but I think this demostrates how unreliable the whole polling system really is. The stats can mean whatever you want them to mean. BW - as for Razzle, you're right the pages do stick together (you must be speaking from experience there), I'm more of a Playboy man now ;-) As Russell Crowe said in Gladiator - 'on my command unleash hell...'
Ralph Malph (not_towing_the_partyline@wisa.nothing_anyone_else_other_than_us_says_is_true)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 03:53:43 (PST)
Paul, where is your spell check????? I have just reed my message and it is oh so poor!!!!! Just ignore my previous post and I will go back to bed. Can we not talk about on the field issues on here, the polotics of MK is boring the pants of me.... Oopps I shouldnt say that should I...
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 03:25:43 (PST)
Lads I thought BW had gone permanently to the WWW guestbook!!! Seems he is cant stop being rude to people if they tow the his party line. How sad he is.... Lets all say arrrrrrrr
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 03:23:54 (PST)
RM, is that your *real* name? (apologies if you've been asked that before) Are you in any way foppish? Or similar to the wonderful Ralph character in the Fast Show?
Martin D
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 02:04:33 (PST)
TBH Paul, I couldn't give a damn about a silly little poll on the SLP website, and as for its alleigances, I know (although when Lucy Pepper used to cover our games, we did get a hell of a lot more coverage). I was just messing about really. Shame you lot can't have a joke. All take life too seriously ;-) BTW, Ralph, suppose it's pretty difficult for you to read even Razzle when the pages are all stuck together.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 01:41:48 (PST)
BW - you really should get out more, there is a whole wide world waiting for you when you get out of your bedroom. There are also some interesting reading material out there that is a bit more advanced than Razzle and Y&B ;-)
Ralph Malph (thechiponbrightonwomblesleftshoulder@miltonkeynes.org)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 01:18:53 (PST)
BW - I thought to a point you would be happy with this poll result, Why you may be thinking? Well Out of 2000 people 740 said they want CK to resign presumably not one of them 740 people were active WISA people who read here, W&WW, WISA or SW19's army otherwise news of the poll being in action would have been posted on the site so people could vote. Everyone knows that the SLP has always been a Millwall, Palace and then Charlton and Wimbledon paper so the majority of people who voted it's safe to say would have been palace fans. Have you ever tried to alter the results of a poll by voting against the expected answer? (and i'm not even talking about Wimbledon polls here. )Internet polls are always open to abuse.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 01:13:06 (PST)
ICSOUTHLONDON has received a record number of dupes in an online poll on the future of Wimbledon Football Club. In a shock result, 633 per cent voted that Charles Koppel be installed as new Wimbledon FC manager. Over 2,000,000 votes were cast in icSouthLondon’s online vote, which mistankenly asked ‘Should Wimbledon chairman, Charles Koppel resign?’ The vote was rigged after the Wimbledon independent Supporters Association (WISA) unwisely called for Koppel’s resignation following the esteemed chairman’s plan to move to club more than fifty miles away from its preferred option in Merton, South London, to the welcoming arms of Milton Keynes. Charles says that Koppel has wasted precious time and money and looking at Merton and should not resign. According to chairman Mao: “Koppel is a shining example to us all, and I approve his spending of nearly £1million on this brave and forward looking platform to justify the investment." "That is money that could have been used to buy me a new line of coke", commented Pete Wankelvan, Chairman of the Milton Koppel appreciation Society (making small children smile a lot is our business). "It's clear I have a long year of future in football and I will resign afterwards with a big payoff. What do you mean I've shown utter contempt for the fans? What about the reduced price tractors I'll be sending to MK for the first match for them all? The ungrateful bastards". The South African Press has reported that the Royal Borough of Merton Council are refusing to deal with Koppel due to ‘lack of cash.’ The council insist they will redevelop the derelict site of the Dons former home, Plough Lane, into a new hotel - whether Wimbledon fancy staying there or not (at the cost of 100 billion Brunswicks). However, it appears that Wimbledon fans have different ideas, with only 37 of icRoekkeLondon’s voters agreeing with WISA and wanting Koppel to have a nice holiday. A Football Association panel spent eight days considering Koppel’s holiday slides in January, before referring the decision back to the Football League (Franchise Incorporated), who have twice mistanken the plan for a bucket of lobster droppings. Wimbledon FC is now waiting for the sky to fall on their heads, which is due in March (when the cash runs out).
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Just off the PA wires, - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 13:48:11 (PST)
I presume this isn't a guestbook for those who rant then, Ralph? You'd better get your coat then. TW, don't know any scurrilous rumours about you, but if you'd care to share them......;-)
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Not fiddling whilst Rome burns., - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 13:17:13 (PST)
Martin D as I said earlier the football IMO is well down the list on the impotant WFC issues. However it still remains the reason why people go to matches, meet their mates in the pub and surf the web, how long would these guestbooks last if WFC was killed off by Koppell? not long at all if you ask me. Some people like to post about footballing matters because it deflects their mind from the MAIN issues for a short while but just because people want to talk about the games does not mean they are oblivious to the MAIN issues - everyone reading this knows we are fighting for the existence of our club and we all desperately want to see WFC back at Plough Lane where we belong, but what is wrong with the occasional bit of chat with our fellow Dons about the game we all love
Hutch (the people without web access are the ones who need to be pointed in the right direction not those on guestbooks such as this who MUST know what is really going on)
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 08:49:15 (PST)
Hutch - Valid point sir - TBH i hadn't looked at the in's and out's of it, but now you mention it we have lost to some supposed better teams. Did anyone see Racing Post b4 xmas. Took all of last seasons Div 1 teams and put league table based on league results soley in 2001 regardless of promotion or relegation. So QPR & Foolham were included. Unsurprisingly Foolham were still top and Stockport were bottom. Where were we? 2nd bottom about sums it up really. That's why I don't listen to TB and we can still make the play offs. Those stats don't paint a good picture of his reign. ISN'T THE QUALITY OF THIS LEAGUE POOR
Ralph Malph
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 08:48:36 (PST)
Ralph - I disagree with us fairing better against the better sides, 10 defeats in the league this season and only Watford, Rotherham and Wallsall below us have beaten us whereas the other 7 defeats have come from teams higher than us,
Hutch
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 08:18:59 (PST)
As a tribute to our potentially dead or seriously injured commrade - I think we should all wear Red Jackets on Saturday :-)
Ralph Malph
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 08:09:07 (PST)
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to talk about the football, but I'm afraid my heart's not in it when the team may soon cease to exist, or worse, it becomes someone else's team. As our future - in whatever form - is entirely dependent on events OFF THE PITCH, I find it very hard to see any importance or much interest in Connolly's misses, Mild's tackles or Wilmott's good game at CB. What I'm basically saying is what is the point of us playing well or winning? If we win all our games and go up, it may make MK more likely. I don't want that so I'm stuck in a terrible sort of football pergatory. The football is currently a nice distraction, and if you're happy being distracted (and admit to it) then fine. Otherwise, what are YOU doing to return this club to its real home, the ONLY place it has any real future? Is it really only me who doesn't get the same sort of elation and satisfaction from a good performance/win anymore because I know all those players and management are either pro-MK or are sitting on the fence and acting like cowards?
Martin D
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 07:27:36 (PST)
Does anyone know what happened to Red Jacket Man after his suicide hoolie run? Did he get out alive? do we have to send a wreath to his family? or some grapes to Guy's Hospital? Is RJM on drugs? Because if he isn't he should be. TW - I agree that we fair better against the better teams but it is our inconsistency and the fact this time around Jason Roberts will be facing us that I worry. Poor Coops is totally knackered, he spends most of his time protecting the left backs we deploy because neither of them can defend. As for Garteh he's never done anything in his time here and it is a great pity because he has the potential. But I don't think we are in a position to risk cash on a 28 year old potential player. Sadly he is the Darren Anderton of the Dons. Spurs have had to seasons to get a full one out of him. It's a crying shame and I wish him all the best because he deserves much better luck than he has had here.
Ralph Malph
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 07:12:34 (PST)
In last comment, R Mouth should read R Malph. No subconcious slip on my part, believe me.
REPD again
Oops, - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 07:09:05 (PST)
Allow me to clarify - there's a difference between commenting on the soccer once in a while as a pressure release and acting like nothing is going wrong. And unfortunately (not suggesting that anyone on here is acting thus) too many people seem to be acting the latter and claiming they're the former. I've had plenty of occasions (not just MK but Dublin as well) where I've heard "sit down and support the team". Even now, there are some people who still think it. Again, it's a case of priorities. In answer to a couple of specific points : Hutch - if you notice, I don't actually concentrate on the game in question that much in my reports :) I find a lot of the "player x did this, player y did that" style reports very very dull. Of course I'm there for the football mainly, and hopefully one day I can actually do a report which concentrates solely on the football. Just not ATM IYSWIM .... R Mouth - as said before, many people just don't care enough about what's going on the pitch ATM, and I don't actually blame them at all. If (say) W&WW is almost obsessive about anti-MK/CK, then maybe that is the general mood of the fans. Just a thought...
REPD (http://www.sw19s-army.co.uk)
Insert something funny here, - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 07:07:35 (PST)
Hutch, I agree about the overpassing. I can't understand why we mount a fast attack, with some lovely passing and movement, only to get to the edge of the box and start coming back again. TB seems very reluctant to change things during a game even when it is obvious that what's taking place isn't working. I also agree with ED about Ainsworth. Plenty of flair and he can be exciting to watch but we need more than a couple of full games a season. Shame but I think it is the right decision to let him go. If we look at value for money we need look no further than Cooper. Not only does he create and score goals but he gets back and helps out the defence. Something we didn't get when Gayle played that position. Cooper works so hard it is no wonder he looks dead on his feet towards the end of some games.
TW
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 06:41:06 (PST)
Honestly, will we really miss Ainsworth? Yes, he has ability, but only for about five minutes every 6 months. He's our Anderton - a sicknote, and for the money they must be paying him, it's not good enough. He must be one of our worst player buys ever. One that we can definitely afford to lose at the end of the season.
Edinburgh Don
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 06:10:45 (PST)
TW - at Selhurst the majority of teams come for a point and look to snatch something on the counter, IMO we do ourselves no favours by over passing, it simply allows the opposition to line up 8 men on the edge of the box further to this when we do go in front we seem to be content with 1-0 and play with no real drive, this simply allows the opposition to put pressure on us - even though our defence is strong at the moment we are still no-where near good enough to hold out for a 1-0 in most cases as we have proven this season, what we need IMO is to kill sides off by pounding them with cross after cross and not being satisfied when we go ahead
Hutch
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:47:12 (PST)
Ralph, although it should be a close game I don't worry about the better teams as much as those in the lower half of the table. We seem to be able to cope with the teams that are looking good then slip up against the also rans. Don't know whether it's attitude of mind or that the Dons don't like being hustled around. We have let points slip away to teams that football wise we've slaughtered. A point that shows, to me at least, is home to Portsmouth and yet six points from Man.City.???? It's daft but as I said in an earlier post, if I knew the answer I'd be rich from the fixed odds.
TW
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:34:59 (PST)
REPD - I hear what you are saying, but if you don't talk about football, any football, this will become like w&ww where everyone gets so obsessed with CK, MK etc... Just let people discuss other things without jumping on them. Everyone cares what is happening, some just choose not to carry on like the spawn of lucifer.
Ralph Malph
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:26:33 (PST)
TW - not entirely convinced it was a penalty, but I think most referee's would have given it. Trouble is I really hate Mr Poll, but yesterday I couldn't hate him - which has made me hate him even more, if you know what I mean. Blackburn - the new Leicester (Martin O'Neill era)they won't go down. Not looking forward to Saturday, I think we may have trouble dealing with Dichio and Roberts. Remember Dichio down here in League cup with Sunderland, put in a good performance then. Roberts is just class. But the Baggies choked last season, might have a chance. Top 2 and play off's anyone? MCFC, WWFC - MFC, WBA, NCFC & CCFC
Ralph Malph
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:16:17 (PST)
REPD, excuse me whilst I try and understand. How can you, and others, say we can not talk about football, when, unless I'm mistaken you are all attending the matches. Never mind about "fiddling whilst Rome burns" please explain the difference between watching the Dons or writing about them. Please read my posts and then tell me what more I can do on this site that will serve the purpose for which we all aim. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought we all cared enough about the team to support, defend but above all enjoy the Dons.
TW
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:13:45 (PST)
REPD - can't believe how hippocritical your last post was! you have a website (a very good one I have to say) which very very rarely fails to have a match report, and you post telling FOOTBALL fans not to talk about FOOTBALL? I know what you are trying to say but if it wasn't for the football guestbooks such as this and yours would not exist in the first place. as TW said MK NO WAY and Koppell out are the 2 most important things to Dons fans at the moment everyone knows that, what is wrong with something to deflect the mind for a while and BTW taliking about a Dons fan getting the shit kicked out of him by Millwall fans is not some peoples idea of a laugh
Hutch
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:12:22 (PST)
BW - Once again you have jumped to conclussions. I havent praised the programme, yes their could be improvements to it. I also presume that you are thinking that TW is Tony White at the club? I would be very surprised if any member of the Selhurst Staff (except Chris Draper) posts on this site.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:01:05 (PST)
I'm glad that some people can still talk about football. ATM, I'm far more worried that we may not actually HAVE a club this time next year. And I suspect it's the same for everyone else fed up of being told to sit down, shut up and support the team. Some may not like the "Fiddling while Rome burns" comment but that's effectively what it is. If you really can concentrate on the team at this stage, you've obviously got a far different grasp on priorities than I have certainly.
REPD (repd1@juno.com)
Not wearing a red jacket, - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 04:33:08 (PST)
Ralph, yes I felt sorry for the ex-Dons. Tottenham did have their chances though and perhaps should have won. Cole took his half chance well, wish some of our lads would be as bold and try these things. Did you think it was a penalty? My first thought was yes but obviously the referee was better placed. And the record books will only show the final score so that's that.
TW
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 04:10:53 (PST)
Martin D - agree with your post there - we can (and hopefully are) all doing our bit however big or small to prevent you know what from happening and it is a relief to actually talk football for a while, my take on the season so far (for what it is worth) is we have largely played decent football and it is definitely easier on the eye than it used to be, defensively IMO we are now starting to look as solid as any other side in the league although I still believe we will struggle against the bigger more physical and direct sides away from home as we still are not quite matching in height and aerial ability, midfield seems to be the area open to most discussion but I think with Hughesie having his best ever season (I say best ever season simply because of his work rate and all round play in what I used to think was not his best position),Cooper proving a very good signing and Damo getting back to what we hoped he could do things should be looking good, however TB's reluctance to play with width, crosses and the early ball and his persistent refusal to play Lionel and Ainsworth IMO could ultimately be the reason why we won't reach the playoffs. Up front again is hotly discuused but getting the main 2 for undr £1m was great business, it is their first season together as a pairing and as stated above they are not getting the quantity or quality of crosses they would thrive on, 30 between them would be a decent return, Aggy showed against Man City in the 2nd half just what he CAN do but why will he not run at defences more often? then there is TB he has steered us to some very good results and some very poor results but you can't help thinking that with such a talented squad we should be doing far better than we are, too many leads thrown away, goals leaked when we are in front, refusal to play certain players, reluctance to change tactics and get wingers running at fulll backs and putting in an early ball etc etc look at last season and compare it with this, not much has changed on the pitch, the reasons why we didn't make the playoffs then are the same reasons why we will not make them this season IMO
Hutch
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 04:09:47 (PST)
TW - You are right. But in being right, you disagree with WISA. So you are, in fact wrong.
Bloody inane arguements get you nowhere (ButI'm-a-gonnadoitanyway@irritatinggit.com)
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 04:07:04 (PST)
TW - sir you are spot on... BW I have said it before and I will say it again - GET OFF YOUR BLOODY HIGH HORSE - who do you think you are? I really hope that if this Club ever returns to PL that you have sod all to do with the running of the Club. You obviously have no idea about the operations and runnings of a football club, and I doubt if you would be able to do a better job than CK.
MD - we talk about football because that is the game we go and watch. Felt desprately sorry for Sully, Thatcher and Perry yesterday - but I was delighted that, Hoddle and good ol' Spurs got done. All together now... Andy Cole, Andy Cole, Andy Andy Cole, he gets the ball he scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole...
Ralph Malph
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 03:36:23 (PST)
Martin D, right at this moment nothing we say on this site will make any difference to the MK thing. The same as evryone else I've written my letters to the various people and organisations that count. My feelings have been made known to all of them. So will it make any difference if I keep going on and on about here? Does the bickering that takes place make The MK proposal any more or less likely? I want to talk football because surely the bottom line is the game? Without football it wouldn't matter if Wimbledon went to MK, Plough Lane or the Falkland Isles. As for fiddling whilst Rome burns I don't see your point. Why must we not talk about the games whilst it is okay to watch them? On your basis perhaps we shouldn't attend the matches or if we do, watch in silence. Here we have a forum where we can talk about the goals,misses and players,etc. What is wrong with that?
TW
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 03:07:13 (PST)
TW, why are you so keen for us all to "talk football"? What does it matter at the moment? Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.
Martin D
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:53:39 (PST)
BW, again I ask please read my posts before replying to them. As for being the TW that you have "heard of" may I suggest that you be very careful. You obviously don't know me and are making assumptions on hearsay. Now, let's get back to the messages. I am trying to get Dons fans to talk football and stop this inane bickering. I've said it before and I will say it again: we're all in this together. We may go about it in different ways but that does not make some right with others wrong. The final result is important but you do your best to make this some kind of arrogant crusade against anyone with whom you disagree. You say you write, then do so with regard to other people's feelings.
TW
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 01:56:57 (PST)
TW, Paul, As someone who writes myself, I consider that as a publication, it is a singularly pathetic offering, compounded by the fact that it contains hypocrytical articles about traditions in football by a man who by default supports the dismantling of it through supporting MK. If I read this programme as an 'outsider' with little or no knowledge, I'd make similar criticisms. In fact, I've never particularly rated the official offering. Besides, with enthusiastic defence of Pravda I could accuse both you of coming from biased perspectives in working for the club anywa, just as I am sure you would accuse me in coming from the opposite perspective. Besides, if you're the TW I've heard of, you're hardly one to talk about shooting off at the mouth mate. And as for 'welcoming' my views them, I don't really care if you do or not.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 00:51:25 (PST)
Brighton Womble you're at it again. Spouting off an obviously personal view without full reference to the post to which you're replying. I would look forward to your comments if you managed to keep them constructive, unbiased and non-personal.
TW
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 00:32:57 (PST)
Hash - Ok fair call, it just seems to be that DC is the current "Fall guy" since Darren Holloway has been doing so well. The chance at the end that DC missed I thought was a very tight angle and the keeper did put his hand out to put him off. I think if DC had realised how much time he had in terms of no defenders around him he wouldn't of sncached at the chance like he did.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 23:39:25 (PST)
Cheers for your views as ever Brighton Womble, Can I ask what you expect from an "official" club programme do you expect it to be full of articles slagging off people within the club? Do you buy/read programmes at away games if yes what makes them better? Some people at football buy the programme to find out things like game changes, reserve football,and youth team results which could well be there only way of finding these things out you have to remember that not everyone is on the net.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 23:36:03 (PST)
Paul, I wasnt being entirely serious when I called the person a muppet. I suppose, I should have put a :-) or ;-) or somethin to show that my comments were tongue in cheek. David Connolly has, by all accounts, been fairly poor recently. He hasn't scored a goal in open play in his last 10 or 11 starts, which simply is not good enough. He misses absolute sitters every game and I would now actually expect him to miss if he finds himself in a situation where there is an open net in front of him with the ball at his feet. I suppose its a confidence thing, once he gets a few, perhaps in the reserves (I think he should be given a game or two there)this will come back. He has good positioning and speed, but his finishing is worse than the average 97 year old womans with her left foot. No, I was not at Millwall, but I listened to the commentry on 94.9 FM BBC London or something, and their commentators as well as the accounts of people who went, all agree that Connolly had a poor game.
The Real Hash
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 13:31:07 (PST)
Chris Holmes - whoever you are, you are right ! The matches are dire because we're not going to be allowed to make any significant progress ( over a season, not good individual performances ) on the pitch until the MK situation is resolved. All the matches we have attended, and paid good money to attend, over the last season and a half have been an irrelevance. Ask yourself something - are the games just dire, or are they inexplicably dire ? Do we have a rubbish side, or do we have a good side playing rubbish ? Why has TB been tolerated by the board for so long ? Wake up everyone ! The things that have been going on at our club over the last 2 1/2 years would make Hanse Cronje blush. ITS CALLED CORRUPTION !
Graham(walthamstow don)
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 12:41:28 (PST)
TW, the official programme is the biggest pile of crap written and edited in the name of WFC I have ever laid my eyes on. It's laid out badly, it's written badly, the graphics are rubbish and it's the biggest pile of contradictory nonsense I have ever seen published in the name of propoganda. I have seen it, courtesy of a few people that I know who get given free copies and I wouldn't wipe my arse with it. Contradictory? The fact that as Koppel attempts to strangle the life out of our club and hive it's traditions off to a new enabling development in MK, Reg Davis (a man I have never met BTW), writes about how terrible it is that Aston Villa's old listed stand has been torn down and laments the assault on traditions in football. What an idiot.
brighton womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Honest as usual., - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 12:36:38 (PST)
TRH - Just because you dont agree with someone doesn't mean they are a muppet. I take it you are basing your view on the web cast and comments on WWW? - REPD - In case you havent worked this mom thing out yet it's based on events ON THE PITCH Hope that helps you make your mind up :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 10:51:56 (PST)
Sorry to bring this up again, been on the Millwall sites (not exactly a fountain of truth admittedly) and they're saying that RJM went into the East Upper to sit with 2 millwall mates, then started mouthing off, whereby he was pushed over the seat and had about 20 pikeys laying into him - yes a minority of Millwall fans are out of order, but this guy didn't exactly do himself any favours, how he got out alive I don't know, their stewards seemed as useless as those at S**hurst. Other than the wannabes next to us, thought the Wall fans were fine, cracking day out, showed what we could have if we get back to Merton.
Gaz
Bromley, - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 10:15:33 (PST)
and which muppet voted for David Connolly?
The Real Hash
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 08:17:02 (PST)
Why isn't RJM on the Millwall MOTM? I'm sure he'd win by miles.
REPD (repd1@juno.com)
SM4, - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 06:35:17 (PST)
Real Hash, you missed my point. Not for one moment did I say that the boycot wasn't working, nor that the official programme is outselling Y&B. What I was trying to say is that there are a few so called "boycotters" who are secretly buying the official whilst telling others to avoid it. I think the official sales are suffering but due not only to the boycot but also the lower gates. But financially the programme sales don't make a lot of difference as the programme is run as a service to the supporters (of both teams)and not seen as a way of making money. Even Y&B publishers will concede that it is not easy to supply a quality publication, pre-judge the print run as to gate attendance, organise and pay for distribution and still make a profit. If anybody thinks different they are doing a disservice to those who must work hard to get Y&B printed and sold. But the real point I was trying to get to is can we get back to talking football. After all what a strange game it is when after Tuesday night's offering we go and get three points at the New Den! If I knew the answer to it I'd be a very rich man through the fixed odds coupons.
TW
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 05:14:49 (PST)
The new den is a good stadium, that said the millwall fans are still scum. I rarely judge on other peoples evidence and have given the millwall fans the benifit of the doubt as to their rep for being animals, after all haven't we suffered at the hands of the media over the years. I went to the game today, i stood at the extreme right of the dons fans, nearest the millwall and could not help but see that many of their fans had little interest in the game but seemed to take great delight in baiting the dons. RJM seemed to court their spleen and if reports are to be believed even went into thier end. I saw the resulting brawl and it was ugly, 20/30 willwall rushed forwards to beat one man, how brave they all are. On train to london bridge jamed full of millwall and a couple of us dons( keeping quite) a man lay unconscious on a seat, rather than help they discussed whether to kick his head in or steal his shoes. At london bridge the driver came down and it seemed the man was assissted. SE london - very grim
chris h
london, - Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 18:57:19 (PST)
Ok I am sure their are going to be questions asked about "RJM" yes he is a Wimbledon Fan who has been going for a number of years. He travels by coach to away games but kepps himself to himself. The story I got from the stewards is that after he was removed from our stand he walked round the complete ground and entered via the exit gates that were open for people to go home. At first he sat in the stand and then it all went off before stewards pulled him out of situation. I understand the police were talking to him following the game.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 14:58:49 (PST)
Hash - hearing it from someone else hardly makes the information reliable! And that's all I'm saying here, not about which programme is better and why and how you know this. All I'm saying is if you're going to use facts to back up an argumenet, use facts that you can categorically prove to be correct! All I'm saying!!!
Nick (nick.draper@tinyworld.co.uk)
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 13:47:57 (PST)
joseph- pardon?
The Real Hash
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 13:13:19 (PST)
nick- no I dont have official sales figures for both but I do know for a fact that every game there are stacks and stacks of unsold official dosh. ur own programme sellers have said this. It is a rare site to see anyone reading the official dosh in the holmesdale wheras almost everyone seems to have yellow and blue. why? because it is better , simple as that. The only thing it doesnt have is Burtons commentsm but who wants them anyway, the guy is a koppelite. It has tonnes of stuff the official dosh dont have. And yes, I have heard it fro any different people that it is outselling the official one by 2:1. It wasnt just a number I picked off the top of me head. I have heard it.
The Real Hash
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 13:11:14 (PST)
Oh dear - small minded pricks continue to miss the point by vilifying the CS bloke. Well I have one word. TWATS.
Joseph
You ain't gettin' out o' this WISA, - Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 13:10:05 (PST)
Hash - Not that it bothers how well Y&B is doing, or how the Official Programme is doing, but I really would like to know how you come to the conclusion that Y&B is outselling the Official Prog by 2-1. Do you know that for sure? Do you have the sales figures for both?? I doubt it, so please don't go about giving us facts that you can not possibly be sure of.
Nick (nick.draper@tinyworld.co.uk)
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 12:42:34 (PST)
TW- for a start I dont believe you, and secondly yellow and blue outsells the official dosh by 2-1, seems like the boycott is working to me.
The Real Hash
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 10:11:36 (PST)
Looking over the last few postings I have to say how sad I am that the football side is not being picked up on. I know the MK thing is predominate but we keep going over the same old ground. Let's leave it out,for the moment, as here we're not changing anything. To go back to the official programme it is amazing how many of the "boycoters" still buy it, but hide it under their jackets. How many stand there and look around first, in case they are seen, then come over and buy. Believe me, I know. So cut out the hypocracy. Either buy it or don't, but stop telling others not to and buy it yourself. COZ you do! And U know who you are"!
TW
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 07:44:30 (PST)
Ian - Just checked with Y&B headquarters and they have said they have spare copies of Y&B for CP Game. "If you want to put a cheque payable to Yellow and Blue for £2 in the post to Y&B, PO Box 32991 Wimbledon, London SW19 2WR, with a note of the issue they require & their address and I'll pop one in the post. Otherwise they can get back issues at the next home game from either The Farley or me outside The Club Shop." If you need to e-mail them it's Heather@yellowandblue.org but heather is away for the next few days so you might not hear from her till the end of next week. - Hope that helps you get the one you are missing.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 13:38:32 (PST)
Come on you Dons !
Tim Morrant (morrantacat@aol.com)
West Ewell, England - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 12:58:59 (PST)
Like someone said on here earlier in the week my sponsorship was arranged prior to everything going up in the air. I cant really see anyone to transfer it to so I'm just going to leave it. I do seem to have a habit of picking people who leave but seems a bit easier this year!!
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 11:57:04 (PST)
Arrivin near late 4 the palace game, Y+B woz sold out, causin me to buy the official programme. Flickin thru the pages I found that itmustbedons.com were the sponsors of David Neilsen's kit.
Can u not do nethin bout bein associated wiv a total scumbag or transfer ur sponsorship to a more worthwhile player, e.g. any 1 else
ps. Ainsworth 4 England! Not Bristol City. Wots goin on Terry
Ian Perrins (themexicantincan@hotmail.com)
Woking, Mongolia - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 11:17:11 (PST)
Gaz, Im afraid that TB will probably have no say whatsoever in the matter of who stays and who go's, GA must be the unluckiest player that we have ever bought and we will never see his true potential, as for the rest, I am sure that they will do a decent job in the lower divisions
Wibbly Don
- Friday, February 22, 2002 at 06:30:38 (PST)
Gutted about Ainsworth leaving at end of season, surely with the lumbering Ardley going we'll still need a right-winger other than Jobi in the squad. Makes no sense when we could easily re-sign him, rather than buying a new one.
Moments of excitement are rare at our games recently, Ainsworth is the first name a lot of poeple look to provide some flair, TB you must keep him.
Gaz
Bromley, - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 04:59:58 (PST)
Sorry Hutch just getting paranoid :) - I hope this will all be over before the next time the time and date can be read the same way forward and backwards.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 04:22:57 (PST)
Paul - wasn't apologising for slamming official programme/merchandise just my use of profanity. when is this whole nightmare going to end anyone?
Hutch
- Friday, February 22, 2002 at 04:06:31 (PST)
Haven't had a good look through your site yet, but I'm sure it'll be great...
headlock.
Anthony Donnelly (wombles2001@hotmail.com)
London, England - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 02:33:18 (PST)
Dont knock the Maximuscle page in the programme lads. Ronan and others you have to see the one of the bird in in the earlier issue. She was a younger version of Sharon Davis but toned up. Problem was that the lads in the shop showed me it as soon as I got there and then my girlfreind hit me and gave me grief all afternoon.
Stuart D (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Friday, February 22, 2002 at 01:01:58 (PST)
I paged through a copy of Pravda on Tuesday night (given free to the sponsorship people before I get accused of buying it!!!) - and was shocked at the number of ads in it these days. Especially the alternate photos of semi naked muscular men and women for NadraloneMuscleStuff. Seriously though, the thing is full of ads. Perhaps we should ring up the advertisers and ask them what the hell they are doing giving money to support MK (this is an 'in' joke for those in the know).
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 16:44:56 (PST)
I think a lot of people buy official match day programes out of habit or as part of the football experience, i know i used to. I stopped buying the official programmes when the price went up to £2, it had become too much of a ripoff and all the info i needed was on the internet. It amazez me that people still buy them, esp as Y&B is excellant.
chris holmes
london, - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 16:19:21 (PST)
Non football question - do you think that they show highlights in the curling or they just make it into a cut and blow dry :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 14:17:54 (PST)
Can I just clear something up why does everyone think that when ever they mention anything bad about anything
"official" they have to sarry sorry to me. This is a guestbook where people are intitled to say what they want the only exception I ask for is that we dont use foul laungage and dont drop down to personal abuse. Yellow And Blue does have it's good points and I enjoy buying and reading it every game but as I said earlier football club programmes have always been a bit on the stale side I think in the past that has been one of the reasons for buying them :)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 14:15:03 (PST)
Hopefully for all our sakes the FL will come to the right decision and very quickly then we can look forward to returning to our rightful home, buying our season tickets, selling Y&B as the official programme, (sorry Paul sod pravda), and selling the Dons Trust merchandise in our Dons Shopping experience within our new stadium
Wibbly Don
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 12:48:51 (PST)
WD - regarding people buying a certian magazine I would imagine like most football fans they have programme collections going back years, if you asked most fans of any clubs they would say that club official programmes are below what they would expect but people buy it to keep in their collections.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 11:52:18 (PST)
Wibbly - I think the main reason people still buy the official programme/merchandise etc is because the majority of Dons Fans do not have access to the web on a regular basis as the likes of you and I do, therefore they do not have access to WISA, W&WW, SW19, IMBD etc and so gain there information through the press and media. When they get connected to the web I imagine the first place they would head for is the official b******s (sorry Paul). It has improved with the introduction of Y and B which tells the truth in more depth and detail than the papers, anyone who has read it would agree slaughters the official b******s (sorry again) every single time which the sales figures prove. We seem to have a large number of younger fans who obviously don't understand the implications and unfortunately a lot of WFC supporters don't like being told what and what not to do and will not listen to WISA - which affects the campaign . For the record I will not be renewing next season, it is not the club I started supporting, it is not even the club it was at the start of last season
Hutch
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 09:34:24 (PST)
'My Baby's In Good Hands'
FOLLOWING THE news that Sam Hammam has sold his remaining 20 per cent stake in Wimbledon, supporters can hear the full press conference, where Hammam outlined his reasons for selling his shareholding to Kjell Inge Rokke and Bjorn Rune Gjelsten.
Hammam said: "I must say that in Bjorn and Kjell, Wimbledon are VERY LUCKY to have two of the BEST PEOPLE IN EUROPE and if I have to pass my baby on to someone, I COULDN'T HAVE BEEN PASSING IT TO ANYONE BETTER'
Wimbledon Official Site 25/02/00 (YOU FUCKING LIAR SAM)
, - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 08:45:32 (PST)
Martin D, like you unfortunately I think that this will also be my last year as a season ticket holder and again I agree I am sure Wimbledon FC will have a greater away support than at home, what I find extremely difficult to comprehend ( and I am sure that someone will enlighten me)is the fact that supporters of Wimbledon FC who I know support a return to Plough Lane still purchase the Official Pravda
Wibbly Don
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 08:35:00 (PST)
And Chris, a merchandise/ST boycott etc. may NOT prevent a move to MK but at least it won't be partly funded by MY money.
Martin D
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 08:13:41 (PST)
Disloyal? Disloyal to what exactly? WFC will soon have spent an entire YEAR pursuing this MK nonsense. That's yet ANOTHER wasted year of not looking at a Merton option. In their stupid pride and stubborness they refuse to seriously look at Plough Lane. I give up with them. Even if we get a ground back I don't want these clowns anywhere near my club.
Martin D
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 08:12:17 (PST)
Martin - for the first time since we moved to selhurst i'm considering not renewing my season ticket. Partly it's not wanting to fund Koppels relocation plans and partly cos i've found it less and less enjoyable going to dons games. I still enjoy going for drink, meeting my friends etc but the games themselves have been really dire. I,m not sure about the arguement that not spending money with the club ( Merchadise ban, not buying an st) will help in preventing a move to you know where. Half of me thinks it is being disloyal to the club and the other says that the club are being disloyal to me and don't deserve any financial support. What do ya reckon?
Chris Holmes
London, - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 07:45:58 (PST)
James, fair point but so what? The club sold me that ST to watch 23 games of football. I (falsely) assumed that the club actually cared about its customers, but no. I did not claim my refund because attendance at matches is just about the only way I can make my disgust known to the club. FWIW I DO NOT intend to buy a season ticket next season if these clueless idiots are still in charge as I cannot stand the thought of that man and Roekke getting one more penny from me to spend on their MK fantasy. I will go to every away game, probably offer free lifts to people and I hope that we become the first club to have a larger support away from home than at "home"
Martin D
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 06:33:34 (PST)
Chris nice to have you on and the site and hope that you will be one of the regulars on the guestbook. I agree about our fans being some of the best. - James I saw that rumour on W&WW as well JH was linked with sunderland a few weeks back so could well be something in it.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 06:23:32 (PST)
First time i've looked at this site & guest book. There appears to be a very polemic discussion on the events at the club shop. I wasn't there but i do remember a friend telling me about it that evening and there wasn't much to tell, it was according to her a good natured demo with lots of shouting and chanting. Until i read this guest book i had no idea that some people felt that there was violence involved. As i said i wasn't there so i take each side of the argument and look to the middle ground. It seems a shame as for the most part Dons fans have reacted to the relocation of WFC with restraint, a big part of the reason why i am a dons fan is the lack of violence at dons games. I can't imagine any other sets of fans reacting so calmly, cardiff club shop would probably be a smoking ruin no. I think that in a campaign of constructive resistance we could argue that the club shop incident was a one off and that no dons fan would knowingly intimidate children.
Chris Holmes (chrisandlesley@hotmail.com)
London, Surrey Uk - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 05:41:30 (PST)
Someone has just said on W&WW that Kevin Phillips is going to Celtic with John Hartson going the other way! This will be Hartson's 7th club won't it???
MARTIN D - To be fair the club did give an option to get a refund on your season ticket mate
James
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 05:13:08 (PST)
DW - no idea where I am on the most wanted list - was once told I was number four, but can't imagine I was given a higher rating than Mr. Fox! Regarding the hospitality - you can read all about it in the West Brom Y&B - and that will answer your questions about why I (and other dons fans)took part. I don't tell people not to buy merchandise - I simply tell them why I think they shouldn't - and make it obvious it is their own personal choice which they will not get attacked for. Given the opportunity to meet many people who invest in the club, would you not like the chance to speak to them, give them the usual message, and see if we can redirect some of that money into fighting MK?
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 03:51:52 (PST)
DW, it's the principle of the thing. The club DELIBERATELY waited until after the season tickets cheques were cashed to announce MK because the money would come in very handy to pay their lawyers and Brunswick. I would NOT have bought one had they made that announcement earlier. I don't care if it's only a few quid, I will not give the club a single penny more until they give up this MK nonsense. It's all anyone can do and a several thousand people doing this DOES make a difference. It doesn't matter how long Ronan has been a fan or not. We need all the fans we can get at the moment, and Ronan does much more than his fair share of work to help the supporters of this club. I also gather the match sponsorship was actually arranged and paid for a long time ago, before the MK chaos. Save your venom for the real problem in WFC, the current owners who will NOT work with the community to rebuild the club in Merton.
Martin D
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 03:00:34 (PST)
Ronan, Dandies Warhole has a very good point, but DW lighten up a little, it really dosn't matter how long you have supported the club, it is the principle, I belong to WISA and the Dons Trust, I am not on the wanted list, I dont buy merchandise, Programmes or anything else to do with the club, except my season ticket and Koppell got that by default but if me not buying a shirt (which by the way I love) or anything else stops the club from even having a penny towards their campaign to move my club to MK, I would, in my eyes have done my little bit, no matter how small.
Devils Advocate
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 02:15:24 (PST)
Ronan - So you are a WISA (We Illegaliy Smuggle Arabs) activist are you? Where are you on the Club's most wanted? Please remind me again - how long have you supported the Club - and what right do you have to tell me and others that we should not buy merchandise? Surely you should have boycotted the sponsorship, because now you have accepted CK's hospitality. In my eyes you are the equivalent of the boys in the Club Shop. You should be ashamed.
Dandies Warhole
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 01:59:27 (PST)
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