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Koppell will never win, he must not win and anyone that supports him in anyway by selling merchandise, programmes etc, must pay the consequences on judgement day when we return to Merton, you are no more than scum
Untamed Womble
- Friday, December 07, 2001 at 01:11:33 (PST)
Thanks for that input - It's nice to see that you take time to post hate comments on sites.
I have been told in no uncertain terms from within the CLub to back off in the protest stakes, that i am in the top five they want most: Do I stop protesting? do I say sorry Mr Koppel for disturbing your peaceful tranquil little plastic NewTown dream, no I say simply Mr Koppel get out of my club and take the rest of the blood sucking club killing leeches with you. Time to fight guys, time to cut those ties whatever/whoever they be. They have no loyalty to us the Supporters. Oh and Charlie Boy as you will know you have been told that directly by me more than once.
certain unamed womble
- Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 09:33:16 (PST)
VPD- you make an interesting point - similar to the one the vocal 'anti-MK' people are making atm - I.e. will all those people who do not speak out thank us all later once we return home? Either way - I don't give a damn - this campaign is not about individuals - and I wish people would stop thinking that - no offence to Paul etc. - but they are not important enough to have an effect on any of this. Regarding not printing your name - that's up to you - but I would certainly frown upon anyone who physically attacked you over it. If you can't take the verbal - that's up to you, Paul & co are standing their ground - why can't you? Again to think you're important enough for WISA to focus on is a joke.
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 06:09:03 (PST)
I will be supporting Fans United. I will be in Block S of the AW stand. And, invariably, (almost) every song that is sung in that stand, will be anti-Koppel. Now, I may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but if Paul and the other ywo or three guys in the shop join in, does anyone on here seriously believe that they will still be in the employ of WFC by the end of the day? Come on people wake up! Oh, and everyone else who continually presses the point, when (I stress WHEN not IF) this whole thing is resolved and WFC is back where it belongs, remember that these are thguys you are going to have to buy merchandise off. This is why I will not buy these attacks or criticisms, because, at the end of the day, we are all going to have to go back to these people afterwards. "But what if...." I hear you cry? Well, then my guess is they wont be working there any more, so there is no problem. Remember 2+2=4 not 5.
VERY pissed off Don (Somewhere@overtherainbow.com)
Not giving name for fear of it being put on WISA and having me strung up., - Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 01:57:43 (PST)
W&WW exclusive......
Following on the heels of yesterdays news about the players asking for Terry Burton to take training instead of Stewart Robson w&ww can reveal that Robson has been sacked by WFC.
It would appear Robson was adamant that his way was the way to train and a 'back me or sack me' stance has led to his removal.
This is believed to be welcomed by the players who had grown increasingly disillusioned by his tough regime. Burton will return to the training ground whilst the hunt for a new coach takes place - believed to be a man of experience.
Charles Koppel won't be to involved yet - he is still on his second week of a Florida holiday.
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 01:40:43 (PST)
Paul, you really must update your main banner for christ sake Olsen is still on it and for their latest comments Jones and Fashanu should also be removed
pissed off don
USA - Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 00:24:34 (PST)
Hey Walthamstow Don anouther one of the secret invaders of Spurtz ands Arsenal territories :) We will have taken the placeover before they know it
Tottenham Don (seanphilfox@aol.com)
- Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 00:23:41 (PST)
This is my first posting for about 8 months. I don't want to add anything about Milton Keynes as I recently contacted WISA and I think that is the right place for the discussion.
However,things on the pitch are a different matter,but perhaps connected. I can't remember a Dons' team with so many players who are so comfortable on the ball, and yet as a side I think we are complete rubbish and heading for relegation. The person who wrote in a recent edition of Yellow and Blue that we are playing our best football ever must be blind. The main problem is Burton. Why were Withe and Olsen not shown the same tolerance for being walking disasters? The Norwegians are villains and in your desire to find a hero you've taken Mr.Mediocrity to your hearts. A question: if the Norwegians' evil is so all-encompassing would they tolerate a manager who isn't a Yes Man? Another question: If you owned a football club and wanted to convince your fans that the club could never be successful at its current home, would you want the team to be challenging for promotion?
Graham(Walthamstow Don) (graham@wstow99.freeserve.co.uk)
- Wednesday, December 05, 2001 at 14:31:59 (PST)
Paul can you answer the question, will you be supporting the Fans United Day on Sunday or not, what a statement it would make if all you guys in the shop locked up early and joined in the fight against Koppell
Wunderin Don
- Wednesday, December 05, 2001 at 14:31:39 (PST)
Oh and as for the using of our own website is It must Be Dons suffering form the same form of censorhip as the Official Site now then or is diversity of opinions prohibited?
certain unamed womble
- Wednesday, December 05, 2001 at 14:24:02 (PST)
Paul I think you know pretty much well who I am as it goes, baring in mind I sign on WWW under the same logon, bearing in mind I use it on SW19.Not to mention for thatmater that I used it on WISA Chat until amending it recently becuase of information which was fed back to me regarding the Club gestapo monitoring the website and specefic information relating to their attitude towards me. It might interest you to know I was excluded from the OWFF on the basis of my anti Milton Keynes feelings and that in relaity I was only let back on because I made a bloody nuisnace of myself and indicated I would use my contacts to ensure the lie of no pre-condtions was another example of your employer Mr Koppel tying to pull the wool over people's eyes.
You know me and you know me well, as for the "dig at Fans Utd" it was a simple question is there any danger of some Club employees who frequently proclaim their love for the Club actually joining in and showing their solidarity? If I recall correctly you were in fact one of the people who went to the Fans Utd at Brighton, how ironic it would be if you did not feel able to join and participate in one at your own Club.
Certain unamed womble
- Wednesday, December 05, 2001 at 14:21:38 (PST)
er,why does everyone argue??i swear we are all wimbledon supporters??!WOMBLE TILL I DIE.wfc.
south london
- Wednesday, December 05, 2001 at 01:48:59 (PST)
About the blocks for Fans United, we have been given Block S to start with, but the police have said that, if needed, the blocks next to it could be used. Do not worry about lack of space, I'm certain that it will not be a problem.
Getting your season ticket swapped seems to be another matter entirely.
Peter Bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
WIMBLEDON, WIMBLEDON WIMBLEDON - Wednesday, December 05, 2001 at 00:37:14 (PST)
Brighton Womble/Kevin , The comment about hiding behind a name was not aimed at you everyone knows your name and you also use your e-mail address so I dont have a problem on that front. Also MOST people dont come on here and slate me, and although I still choose to work in the shop many WISA and Yellow & Blue people still talk to me in a pleasant way.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 08:05:42 (PST)
Of course, that should have read "HA HA". Doofus.
Edinburgh Don
- Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 06:03:29 (PST)
At the risk of being flippant, AND actually talking about football, I thought you may find this amusing. A new fan's campaign has been started in Scotland called "Lay off Larsson!" Apparently fans of all Scotland's clubs (except Rangers possibly) are quite happy for the swede to waltz through their defence and score loads of goals as long as he is in good shape to face Beckham and co! In one of Sunday's papers, the headline in reaction to our world cup 'group of death' was simply "HH HA!". Maybe just a hint of sour grapes?
Edinburgh Don (edinburghdon@yahoo.co.uk)
- Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 06:02:42 (PST)
So if everyone is going in the arthur waite for the game against forest are we going to need a lot more than block s?
I have several fans coming along, as do many people, so the potential is there for a very good crowd, even if we are sitting in the overpriced, dodgy stand with no view and no bar.
Gaz
Bromley, - Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 05:13:20 (PST)
It's Kevin Rye by the way, so I can't be accused of hiding behind the anonymity of e-mail addresses and pseudonyms.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 04:53:35 (PST)
Jamie, I'm not a sheep for a start. Paul, the reason people do come on here and slate you is because of your actions and you know that. It can't be helped. You've chosen your course of action and people will continue to berate you for that. And I am quite happy for you to mail me anyway.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 03:23:00 (PST)
Brighton Womble, Grow up - I'm fed up of gutless people hiding behind names and not using e-mail addresses to have a dig at people not bothered if it's me or not. Some actions of people who think they are helping the fight against the re-location plans actually make it worse because people lose all respect for them. As I said before slag people off on your own web site people are fed up of the same old stuff being posted!!
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 03:00:08 (PST)
Brighton Womble - Why do u bother coming on this web-site when all u do is slag people off? Go and get some of your own opinions on the MK/Club Shop thing, it isn't very nice seeing sheep on this web-site
Jamie (jamieweir@fcuk-me.co.uk)
- Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 02:30:32 (PST)
Feeling a bit guilty, Paul?
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Not afraid to reveal myself ;-), - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 14:05:20 (PST)
To Certain Unnamed Womble, I'm confused where is the dig's at the Fans United organisers? and I take it that the dig about club employee's is aimed at me? Nice to see you hide behind a "netname" and not use an e-mail address either.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, December 02, 2001 at 13:48:00 (PST)
Fans Utd day, any chance the sniping at the people trying to organise this and other demonstrations might stop, any chance of a few Club employees joining us in the protest? Any chance of not having to hear people moaning about dont protest during the game? When excatly do you suggest we protest maybe in Milton Keynes town centre, the people who need to hear are at the games during the game and so thereofre must be the protests. GET OFF YOUR ARSES AND FIGHT FOR YOUR CLUB
certain unamed womble
- Sunday, December 02, 2001 at 09:57:48 (PST)
Edinburgh, agree with most of what you say if this new league comes about but I won't turn my totally on the game, I'll start watching non league football where money isn't quite everything at the moment... but give it time. How some of the names for this new league have been mentioned is beyond me. It's certainly got nothing to do with ability on the field.
Who went to Coventry yesterday?I've just read the match report on the club's website. I must have been at a different game. Deserved a point!!!! I think not. The first half was worst than Barnsley and the second was only marginally better but only because Coventry lost interest.We seemed to have 11 dispirited players who didn't seem to have much idea as to what they were supposed to be doing. Team selection was...well I'm not sure. Darlington is great forward but defending I think I could have done a better job. Definitely at fault for 2 of the goals. Still if he is played out of position it is hardly his fault. Super Al get fit you are needed.As for midfield were these the only players available? Where was Anderson for example? Injured, fallen out with TB? Not that we are ever told. At least Mild was injured that much we do know.So we had 2 central midfield players out. But where was Andy Roberts? Someone told me he has fallen out with Terry Burton. If that's true then we end up with a midfield missing a vital individual just cos the manager's got a strop on with one of the players.
Anyone agree with that or am I being too critical? I am afraid I'm getting to the point where it is just a total waste of money going to some of these games both from a money popint of view as well as the time.
wiltshire don
- Sunday, December 02, 2001 at 09:37:34 (PST)
Ed Don - I'm sure MK Dons would be included in Feeeenicks. They would have (a) large stadium (b) foookin loads of money (c) Massive television interests. Although, I keep forgetting the stadium would be no larger than the one we want to build on Plough Lane (to begin with).
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Saturday, December 01, 2001 at 06:36:39 (PST)
Ed Don, I afraid that is now the name of the game, ME! In the fifty's there was a saying "I'm alright Jack". Not such much said now but truely observed as in "Up yours, I've got what I want". I've just finished reading the late Brian Moor's autobiography, "The Final Score". Even a man of his imense love of the game feared for it's future. Listening to radio 4 the other night there was talk of Grand Prix Tennis and corporate hospitality. The commentator went on to state "who gives a stuff about the game when your in hospitality rooms". Exactly. Still at least we will remember the game when it was beautiful. But let's not get depressed after all I've just watched the wonderfully open and honest World Cup draw. Or was it??????
TW
- Saturday, December 01, 2001 at 03:42:16 (PST)
So, now not only do we have to fight greedy, money grabbing ponces in Oslo, but in bloody Glasgow as well! This Phoenix league really can't be allowed to happen. Most SPL clubs survive (just about) on their games against the 'old firm' and their departure will kill them. Much has been said of the loss in income upon relegation from the prem to Div 1- this would be worse. The lower leagues in England will also suffer. Remember this is an invitation only party chaps, and WFC aren't on the guest list (wonder if MKFC would be?). To have a league that can pick and choose it's members with only a view to financial resources and not even a nod to league position, really would see me turn my back on the game.
Edinburgh Don (edinburghdon@yahoo.co.uk)
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:21:48 (PST)
The club don't 'really' want us to move? Asked Kjell Inge Roekke that then. He's a man on a mission.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 08:23:45 (PST)
Yes - previous post was old. Now all that is going on is Koppel saying on Norwegian TV during the week (recent interview as BRG refused to do one) - "We want to move the club to Milton Keynes" - and they are quite happy to spend club funds on the FA arbitration. I'm convinced by that they don't *really* want to move us there at all.
Head out of the sand
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 02:39:10 (PST)
Before the guestbook gets flooded the previous post was the text of the original announcement and is not a current statement.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 13:58:39 (PST)
WIMBLEDON FOOTBALL CLUB AGREES TO MOVE TO MILTON KEYNES
Wimbledon Football Club today announced that it has reached and agreement with the Milton Keynes Stadium Consortium to move to a new home ground in Milton Keynes. Subject to the necessary planning and regulatory consents being obtained, the club intends to be playing in the new stadium in the 2003/2004 season.
Chalres Koppel, Chairman of Wimbledon Football Club said: "This is about ensuring the survival of the club. Wimbledon has been homeless for ten years now and without a proper home ground the future is bleak. As chairman of the club, I have always said that we would look at all options available to us is by far the best and only immediate option for us."
"Football as a whole will also benefit. This move will allow for a substantial investment in the game and create a new state of the art stadium. Initial capacity for the new ground will be 28,000 seats with the potential to increase to 45,000 seats."
"Of course we understand that this is an emotional issue for our loyal supporters and that many people will be disappointed. As everyone knows, we currently have a very small supporter base – something not helped by the fact that we are homeless. However, we want to make our supporters part of the process. To this end we will establish a Liaison Committee for our various supporter group to communicate directly to the Board on how best to ensure their on-going involvement with the Club. Moreover, we fully intend to meet our commitments to our local Community, Youth and Academy programmes."
Pete Winkelman, leader of the Milton Keynes Stadium Consortium, said: "We are delighted that Wimbledon has agreed to move to Milton Keynes. We can offer the club a warm welcome and a unique solution to its unique problem. There is tremendous support for this locally, Milton Keynes is currently the largest urban population in Europe without a professional football team and we can offer Wimbledon the home it has been looking for since 1991."
For further information, please contact:
Craig Breheny Brunswick 020 7404 5959
Frank De Maria Brunswick 020 7404 5959
Just in case you forgot to take your heads out of your arses
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 09:01:39 (PST)
OWFF Elections & candidate manifestos can be found at http://www.wisa.org.uk/news/n20011129a.html or on the Official Site.
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 08:08:11 (PST)
Wimbledon Supporter no.1: "Sir, Sir, do you realise your foot is on fire. Excuse me, sir, your foot is on fire."
Wimbledon Supporter no.2: "Will you leave me alone, I'm discussing the price of petrol and matches"
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Get it?, - Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 06:30:08 (PST)
Everyone should watch this Norwegian TV documentary for a 'independent' view of what's happening with the dons. First couple of minutes is other news, then 20 mins about us.
http://frihet.tv2.no/index.cfm?episode_id=6660
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 01:37:14 (PST)
Recommend everyone watches this Norwegian TV programme - lots in Norwegian obviously - but all interviews with Koppel and fans are subtitled - so you can hear everything okay. You may have to register first.
http://frihet.tv2.no/index.cfm?episode_id=6660
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:25:23 (PST)
Previous message said there are something like 18 players out of contract at the end of the season. Also picked up same message in one of the Sunday rags. Anyone got any idea who these 18 are?
wiltshire don
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:22:33 (PST)
http://www.wisa.org.uk/news/n20011113a.html
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
Disgraceful Behaviour, - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:42:30 (PST)
Disagree, Nick, and for once we all need to do this together.
We cannot have a load of Fans Utd people in the Arthur Waite on their own for a start.
TBH, the club look like they're trying to scupper this a bit - why could they not open the top tier of the Homesdale? Let's pull together. It won't do any harm for once, will it?
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:08:32 (PST)
It's actually quite important that we all sit in the Arthur Waite. If we can have 3 odd thousand Dons or more plus the tons coming along from other clubs (and there are. six to eight seems to be the average so far) then statement on TV will be amazing. An empty Homesdale and a packed Arthur Waite will make a hell of a statement.
Exchange your ST voucher on the day and your laughing. It is really important we ALL do this.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:03:15 (PST)
Gaz - I agree with you. I think it makes more sense to sit in the Holmesdale, because behind the goals and in the Main Stand is what the cameras will focus on for 99.9% of the game and the number of empty seats will be HUGE if peeps sit in the AW. People will be laughing IMO. And although the noise generated will be louder, it may be drowned out by the Forest fans who will be sitting directly underneath the microphones, as opposed to us lot who are positioned a fair step away from them.
Nick (nick.draper@tinyworld.co.uk)
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:01:16 (PST)
what is this fans united day?
ueawomble (dave_king2000@hotmail.com)
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 09:03:13 (PST)
how can we stop our redcent poor run?
Answer= But some more international players
adam wolniewicz (wimbledon6@hotmail.com)
byfleet, surrey england - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 05:49:06 (PST)
Is anyone actually going to sit in Block S of the Arthur Waite for the fans united day? It's out of the way of the cameras and it's a rubbish place to sit. It'll just show up what poor support we have and discourage future players from signing if the holmesdale is empty. The club will be laughing at us. I have 8 people coming along, ranging from Arsenal to Brighton to Sunderland fans, and if they have kindly agreed to come I can't expect them to pay over the odds and sit somewhere crap. I'm still thinking I'll try to get them in the Holmesdale. Does anyone have any feelings on this?
Gaz
Bromley, - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 05:08:43 (PST)
Those calling for Terry to be replaced - who would you bring in? I think Kinnear would just be another backward step and I don't think Sanch would come back. We would probably end up with another dodgy Norwegian.
Edinburgh Don (edinburghdon@yahoo.co.uk)
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 12:12:03 (PST)
I've looked over postings on this and other sites and seen all sorts of opinions on the present playing situation. A lot are blaming the board, others Terry burton. Why, apart from myself, is nobody looking at the spineless, lazy individuals who claim to make up our side. I don't include all of them but I refuse to praise the few who do try, as they should be goading their colleagues who are letting down them, us, but above all Wimbledon Football Club. Yes, sure we have problems with the MK thing, but that's not their concern. That is betwenn the fans and the board. In the meantime the players should be giving us 100% (more if that is physically and mathmatically possible) every game.
TW
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 08:30:41 (PST)
HI, I'm a season ticket holder in block G of the Holmesdale. I though that although the referee was appalling at the Wolves game yesterday, the tactics were still largely to blame. I think it is time to relieve Terry Burton of the managerial position. He makes this stupid remarks in the programme about how we are unbeaten in five, when four of thos games resulted in unacceptable draws. For him, these are obviously not bad enough results to start getting worried but I am. The problems stem from the manager and the inconsistency as to the quality of his signings. Cooper and Connoly are both great players, but I think Shipperly and Holloway are both completely undeserving of their places in the team. I say we bring Sanchez or Kinnear in and actually try and get somewhere this season rather than settling for 'just outside the playoffs'.
MK NO WAY. KOPPEL OUT.
Nick (cheesy_peesy@hotmail.com)
London, UK - Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 01:34:30 (PST)
Edinburgh, you recently asked whats wrong with the team,read on!!Well from my point of view yet another wasted 5 hour round trip to watch..well I don't really know. Firstly,can we blame the referee? He was certainly one of the worst I've seen this season and that includes the ones I've seen in the Doc Martens league.He didn't help but it's not his fault our passing is just cack. I agree with most things that have been said before. (1) No wingers. Today there just wasn't anyone in space to pass to. It's as if our players have to go forward so they can be close enough to hold hands. Even when Ardley came on he ran into the middle before thinking it might be a good idea to get out on the wing. (2) There seems little passion to actually put in any biting tackles. I'm sure all teams now know how to deal with us, just put pressure on the player with the ball and we haven't got a clue. (3) Why bother with one pass when a dozen will do, We don't want to go back to the old long ball game but really at the moment we have gone to the other extreme. We are trying to walk the ball into the net with our pretty triangle passing ( have you noticed time after time we have 3 players together who do nice little passing patterns between them and get absolutely ........nowhere). (4) No support for the forwards.I feel sorry for Shipperley he left up front all on his own to battle away. Andto top it off he gets a lot of flack from the crowd.Connelly runs all over the place trying to get hold of the ball. If he waited for the defence and midfield to get the ball to him he could spend most of the 90 minutes in the stand chatting to the fans!!!! (5) No plan A and certainly no plan B. We seem to play exactly the same regardless of what team we are playing. The only difference is which players are out there.
And finally i would like to know what has happened to Andy Roberts. He hasn't been my favourite player in past seasons but I think this season he has been doing an excellent job. Andy where are you?????
What I can't undersatnd is how some players are just not given a chance, Robinson, Selley, Bryne Gray to name but a few.
Well thats it. All a bit depressing but at least we are talking football and not MK.
Any one else who went today got any views? We are now nearly half way through the season and we are getting close to the point where we can't keep telling ourselves all we have to do is out a little run together and we will be up where we should be with the players we have. Equally lose a couple of games and we will be where we don't want to be!!!
wiltshire don
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 15:23:31 (PST)
Edinburgh Don, we've got several problems. We are trying to play "training ground" football. You know, the fancy pass that you can stand back and admire because everyone else is applauding, and not crunching in with a tackle. (See they do that in real games. It's just that nobody has told our players). We make passes and then don't move to create a space or receive the ball back. We play straight to 4' Connelly who's, with his back to goal, backed into a six foot brick sh*thouse of a centre half, thus giving him no room to move. The pass for him should be through the defence for him to run onto. We have Shipperly, who likes a cross, stuck out on his own with no service from the wings. But most of all, as I've said before, we lack B**L**KS!
TW
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 11:31:31 (PST)
What current youth players do you reckon we should look out for in the next few years?
Curious Orange
London, - Friday, November 23, 2001 at 09:30:23 (PST)
Roberts I think was dropped after the Sheffeild United or Grimsby game. There are rumours he has been linked with a move to Millwall. There are apparently something like 18 first teamers out of contract at the end of the season. How many of this squad will be here this time next year?
Jeremybole (Jeremybole@yahoo.co.uk)
Woking, Surrey England - Friday, November 23, 2001 at 08:57:55 (PST)
Does anyone know whats happnin with Andy Roberts? has he been dropped? or susppended? He hasnt even been in the squad for our last 3 games now but played for reserves the other night. Hes not me favorite player & I know he hasn't set the world alight for us since we signed him. But this season he has finally been playin reasonably well & don't think he deseved to be dropped out of squad completely (if thats the case??).
Paul Laurence (Gooner_Scum@monkeypuzzle.com)
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 07:43:27 (PST)
After Tuesday nights game against Walsall, I fear it could be another midtable position for us, unless something dramatic happeneds. At the moment they appear to playing expecting to win rather than trying to win.
Jeremybole (Jeremybole@yahoo.co.uk)
Woking, Surrey England - Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 09:05:28 (PST)
Edinburgh, Were just crap basically. There dosent seem to be much fight in half the team and we keep being punished defensivly!! Unlike last season we dont seem to really be creating chances or even putting teams under pressure, we seem to think we are better than other sides (&we are) but just assume we will get the result without trying!! Credit to Walsall they did work hard and restricted us but we were fortunate with our 2nd goal, although David took it well.
I do feel sorry for the front two they arent getting much service particually shipperly, given a few crosses he might score but whenever we get the ball out wide with the chance to cross they tend to come back inside and try & pass the ball about again. All very nice but we dont get anywhere!?? Whilst Connelly is doin really well & showing how good a finisher he is, he is having to drop deep to get the ball and ends up shooting from distance most of the time. Mild looks a decent player, finally a replacement for vinny but we already have strong central Midfield! A
ll that said,We've got trond back now so it should all be good, We just need Gareth back ASAP to rip division apart!!!!!!!!!
1rocket (Attack_Attack_Attack)
(bak2) Merton, - Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 04:04:58 (PST)
So what's going wrong? I remeber last season we were murdering teams, but just not taking our chances (trying to walk the ball in). Is it more of that or are we just crap? I have only seen a game on telly so far this year, and we were ok against Watford until the muppet ref got involved. Are there signs that we are about to improve, or is it really bad?
Edinburgh Don (edinburghdon@yahoo.co.uk)
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 14:24:09 (PST)
top site by the way...
Brettski
Crawley, - Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 13:58:59 (PST)
I thought Hakan Mild had a good game last night.Definitly a good buy.....but yet again,my freinds and i left the ground feeling very frustrated......as i'm sure the rest of the dons fans were...oh well....i'll miss the game on saturday, lets hope we get three points.
brettski
Crawley, - Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 13:55:13 (PST)
Yep - Mild was much better last night. Some good tackles, nice passing, and seems to follow the idea of keeping things simple. He can still improve - but glad to see he had a better game.
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 08:55:51 (PST)
Good site, it was recommended to me by a fellow fan. On the subject of the dons, I have to say hope Terry can turn it round because he's a good man and finds good players, but if he doesn't soon, he'll have to go, I'm afraid
Bruce
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 04:44:22 (PST)
good site, like the man of the match voting thing
Helen Vernon (vernonhl@aol.com)
Cheam, England - Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 23:23:30 (PST)
Mixed views about Mild. He didn't seem to be part of the team for most of the game - wandering aimlessly about - but as Paul said he did get better as time went on. He can certainly pass the ball - something fairly important IMO! I reckon he just needs to get used to our style of play, and learn the shape our other players take on the pitch.
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 04:35:38 (PST)
I'm quite looking forward to seeing this Mild chappy tomorrow, I didn't see the England/Sweeden game (was in the alex, but we had a table under the TV where you couldn't see it) and can't afford away games this season. And I've heard Damo wasn't in the reserves today - which means he's either got worse or could make a return tomorrow. All rather exciting.
Pete
Peter Bowles (peter@wisa.org.uk)
Wimbledon, - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 15:09:27 (PST)
ED - I think it's fair to say he got better as the game went on. I think in a few games time he will be a very good player. (any comments from anyone else?)
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 06:14:54 (PST)
Was Mild any good on Saturday?
Edinburgh Don (edinburghdon@yahoo.co.uk)
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 06:01:40 (PST)
Hmmm,Gore is shaping up..... maybe it is time to get rid of some old hat....don't you think....?????
Brettski
anxietyville, - Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 13:25:07 (PST)
It is interesting to see that Ainsworth will be out of contract in the summer. Perhaps some other club will pay his "incapacity wages." Out of those that Paul mentions I only see Heald as worth keeping on, and I'm not so sure that we need him with young Gore shaping up so well.
TW
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 10:13:48 (PST)
Paul, thanks again for helping us. Great site!!!
See you next week.
Marcel
Marcel (mpa.kokko@hetnet.nl)
Breda, Holland - Thursday, November 15, 2001 at 13:03:53 (PST)
Ronan - bet Mild plays more than Ainsworth!
Edinburgh Don
- Thursday, November 15, 2001 at 06:14:25 (PST)
Well said Stu. I'm mainly interested in getting peoples views - and because there are so many options - there are going to be people with many different views. Just look at the main questions - Anti-MK Yes/No, Anti-Koppel Yes/No, Anti-Merchandise Yes/No, Refuse to watch MK Dons Yes/No. Four different questions - bound to be lots of combinations out there. Anyway - back to football. How long will it be before Mild is injured?
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 15:15:01 (PST)
Paul, Stu, I am happy to talk. I do wonder why the phrase 'actions speak louder than words' resonates quite so clearly.
E-mail me and explain the conundrum.
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 15:08:14 (PST)
Just a further point from Pauls's response. I dont understand where the theory that if you by any merchandise then so must obviously be in favour of going to MK!!! I never realised that we sold merchandise in the shop that says 'I purchased this top so I can go to the lovely stadium in MK' I know it is flippant but I really get pissed off with people who seem to assume my feeling rather than have the bollocks to ask me!!! Ask Chris, Ronan, Phillo and Jonesy, they will testify that I dont bite and can have a discusion without promoting MK. I have met Charles on many occasions recently through work and each time I openly voice my disagreement with moving to MK. I dont get sacked because of my views and I believe he respects the fact that we dont tow the club official line. He has known for ages that we in the clubshop are supporters and we natually disagree with any atempt to move our club. However, I love working in the shop and meeting and discussing football topics. I hope we give a un-biased view on Wimbledon to home and away fans and thats how we will continue. What still makes me laugh is the way people still come in holding the Yellow and Blue in one hand and covering the official Programme under their coat. Trust me, it happens all the time and the common response is 'I cant let them outside see that I have brought this' I for one will never be dictated to by anyone and even if I was not working for the club, I would still buy the merchandise as I think it is good stuff this year. Im sorry if this doesnt go with the WISA view but I was brought up in a world for free speach and the right to make my own choice in life. Paul, sorry to hog your guestbook!! I will retire and look forward to seeing how our counterparts in Barcelona do there clubshop!!!! We might learn something!!!!!
Stuart Deacons (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 07:54:49 (PST)
ED - no worries, glad you are keeping an open mind. You should get yourself to the Forest match on Dec 16 its going to be a biggie.
inane hopeless protestor
work, - Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 04:42:14 (PST)
Right, We didn't get the yellow shirt
as a uniform we dont wear a uniform we bought the shirt because
we like it. As Stu mentioned I got a phone call from the club
on the Thursday before the Tranmere game last season asking if
I knew of anyone who could try selling shirts on the saturday
in our own shop the first time in 9 years!! within 10 minutes
I had 4 people we started working in a shop with a table and a
few posters. After 15 years support of this club it was a real
honour to be doing something for the club and supporters. We didn't
no anything about any planned relocation but if we walked out
of the club do you the shop would shut or would they get people
in who dont care about the club or supporters. I would rather
be in the shop helping our supporters than like it used to be
in "palace" shop where to them it was just a sale. And ronan by
no reply's to your question I would think that shows the answer
I dont want this guestbook to be filled up with No I wouldn't
answers. People should be grown up enough to allow people to make
their own mind over buying stuff in the shop or not just because
they buy merchandise doesn't mean they support Milton Keynes or
any other move. Can we now call an end to this subject please?
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 01:50:02 (PST)
Club shop employees will wear official club merchandise - probably part of their uniform.
Question stil stand - how many people on this guestbook will travel to watch the MK Dons? Still waiting for an answer.
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 16:10:35 (PST)
Obviously (by working in the club shop) you three do not support the boycott on club merchandise, am I correct? So you support and encourage (by working in the club shop) people to give money to the club and to the man who wants to kill it? You encourage people to give money that will be used in a court battle to take us to MK? I have also heard rumours that one of you wears the yellow away top!!!!!!confirm or deny? Not having a pop, just want to get a few things straight.
Junior Don
- Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 15:13:38 (PST)
Serious question for Stuart, Paul R et al - you say that you wouldn't have taken any merchandise selling job for WFC after MK was known. Fine. Did you have ANY inklings whatsoever beforehand that such an attempt to relocate the club was on the cards? And if "yes", could you justify to many out there why you still accept club employment? Not a dig at anyone, just an observation.
RE{D
In front of his computer with beer in his hand, - Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 14:35:50 (PST)
BW, I am still a little confused at your argument. We took the job on before all this fiasco about Milton Keynes so its not as if we took the job after the MK deal was struck. With all due respect I dont see why I should have to explain to you or anyone personally why I choose to work for the club. I have responded to your previous message as I am fed up with you questioning my decision. You are, aswell as everyone else is, intitled to have your say, but as I have said, I dont have to answer to you. Ronan, I had read you message and as I have previously said to you, I know your stance on this and I was only stating the same points again as some people dont seem to of listened to me previously.
Stuart Deacons (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 13:04:04 (PST)
IHP, Sorry mate, it wasn't my intention to be patronising to you, maybe 'spoon fed' was the wrong phrase? :-) The contact details are no big secret, just go to the websites of FIFA, UEFA or the house of commons. Agree with TW, on the one hand we have the poverty pleas, the next minute we are hearing rumours of buying an experienced and respected international player who wouldn't come cheap. Either it's papers talking b******s or there's about to be a clearout. Bring him in and get rid of some of our underachievers and injury prone players?
Edinburgh Don (edinburghdon@yahoo.co.uk)
- Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 06:59:06 (PST)
With the press/teletext carrying the reports of Wimbledon signing Mild, I must admit to being perplexed. We hear that the club can't afford to sign Brown until we cut the wage bill so why are we looking to sign an International player, who surely would'nt be that cheap wage wise? Perhaps this suggests that someone is on the way out but even if it's Hughes, do we really need another midfielder?
TW
- Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 06:37:46 (PST)
Stuart, Paul - any of you who work in the club shop - I would gladly talk to you. The only medium I've had thus far is the guestbooks and, TBH, PAul, you refuse to discuss it. That is WHY it's so frustrating. When someone takes as position inevitably so at odds with the vast majority of supporters, of course there are numbers of people who are confused as to why. Let's just put it this way, I do consider it a matter of 'honour' and do consider it unprincipled to remain in the employ of the club, particularly where a part-time job is concerned.
I am not one of what may be perceived (incorrectly)as the old 'WISA crowd', and I have my own views. I have reached them myself and it still does confuse the hell out of me how people do continue to work for the club. Anyway, you know my e-mail; if we can't meet at a reserve game (and I do go only rarely) then mail me, maybe we can meet before/after a match. And that goes for anyone. I might be a 'ranter', and that is a part of me, but, and this may surprise you, I can talk without shouting. ;-)
Brighton Womble (brightonwomble@hotmail.com)
- Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 04:49:56 (PST)
ED - no-one is spoon feeding me anything dude. Don't assume that just because I am 100% behind WISA that I am brain-washed, grant me a little maturity and respect please. Well done for the letter writing, I believe it is a really powerful weapon in our fight. Would be good if you could supply some of the rare email addy's you collect to WISA or W&WW for their contact lists, then more people can benefit :-)
One of the main reasons people were annoyed on Friday was the disgusting and patronising way that old swivel eyes treated the sit-in after Grimsby. You really had to be there and sit through an inanimate PA address to get the point.
ihp
wimbledon, - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 14:34:38 (PST)
IHP - I have never been dismissive of the idea or principle of returning to PL or any site in Merton, as that would be fantastic, I remain doubtful that it can happen - that's not the same. Koppel is only a stooge for the Nogs - trust me, even if he quits, they'd have a mini-me in place within a week who could possibly be even more hard faced and slimy (just imagine!). Family and work commitments as well as the considerable distance and expense of travelling does seriously limit how many matches I can go to. That doesn't mean I don't care and certainly doesn't mean I haven't been campaigning in my own way. I have been writing or e-mailing loads of people such as UEFA, FIFA, the sports minister and secretary of state for Media, Culture and Sport. If you want their contact details, just e-mail me or look them up on the web; don't just contact the people WISA spoon feeds you. Now, lets get back to talking football.
Edinburgh Don (edinburghdon@yahoo.co.uk)
- Monday, November 12, 2001 at 11:09:21 (PST)
SD - won't it be a bit late to do anything to save the club you love when the move to MK is sealed? Anyway, surely you won't need to resign because there won't be a club shop in South London anyway. Unless you plan on commuting to Buckinghamshire that is!
ihp (jeffp32@yahoo.co.uk)
not meaning to sound offensive, - Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 17:41:17 (PST)
ED - if Koppel resigns, then it is a defeat for the whole regime. Just how many people do you think would be lining up to do his job and how long would it take them to get up to speed? WISA have good arguments about the current situation, why are you so dismissive of the whole thing? Nobody wants to protest during matches, we just want to see us back in the Premier League, trading punches with the big boys. However, that dream is not possible as long as we are run by the unacceptable faces of corporate greed that own our beloved club. Why is it so impossible for Club Killer to make an effort to examine the possibilities of a return to Merton? Its because he doesn't want that outcome, it doesn't suit his bank balance. I for one will continue to protest whenver and wherever the other loyal supporters are giving a lead. Come and join us, if you really want the dream to be realised.
inane hopeless protestor (jeffp32@yahoo.co.uk)
- Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 17:30:26 (PST)
:-) Posting here is becoming a habit.
Stuart - (and all other club shop people) - I have to admit I am very jealous of you being able to work for the club - and as Chris will confirm, I even enquired about part-time work just like Paul currently has. Unfortunately, I could not work for the club due to the present circumstances - but you can, and if you are happy - good for you. Again, I can only repeat this present campaign is not against individuals who work for the club shop, but against the owners of the club who (IMO) intend to take it away from us. Also, (as I'm sure you will agree), it would be ridiculous to think that not only would directly targeting club shop employees actually achieve anything - but even be important enough when you compare it with the concept of saving the club. They are far more important people to worry about :-) I seriously hope any fear of violence, or general intimidation dissipates - whilst there may be nutters on both sides of the fence, the world is still safe enough for CK to meet with supporters, and for wimbledon fans like Chris to sit in his seat (where he belongs). We may disagree - but we are not Millwall or Swansea - violence is not a solution to our problems (shame Dubya can't realise that!!).
Friday reached a bad point in wimbledon history - supporters physically attacking each other over the campaign - (please avoid pointing fingers at one side or the other - I've heard both) - but times are emotional, and it is up to supporters on both sides to try and channel peoples energies into the right direction.
IMO, that means finding a solution in SW London and telling everyone about it. Others may disagree - but that's the pleasure of living in a democracy and having the right to free speech. For the record - if you see me taking part in a protest during a game (and I avoid the die, die, die CK chants) - I am still supporting the team 100% - I just think it's more important that we do something about a ground now - rather than sing songs for a team which will no longer exist if CK gets his way. Same reason I don't buy club merchandise - I love the stuff (and spent loads last season) - but can't face putting more money into a club I may no longer be able to support. Throwing good money after bad is the phrase that somes to mind.
I'm glad we are all united in loving our team and manager - it's just how the rest of the business is run I don't like.
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 14:03:32 (PST)
Sorry about the spelling Paul, I have just looked at my post and laughed to bits. Now you can see why I was made redundent!!!!
Stuart Deacons (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
- Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 12:53:58 (PST)
People on this site will pobally know, but if not, I work in the Wimbledon FC club shop at selhurst. Myself, Chris and Paul Raymond were asked a week before the start of last season to work for the opening game and sell the new kit. Myself and Paul had no previous experience working in a retail workplace. However it was a great sucesss and we all got a buzz out of it. Chris got the Managers position and we all stayed on and had a real good time. We all heloed in our own spare time and got the shop in good position. I take great pride in how the shop looks today and I dont want to give that position up lightly. I have known Paul Raymond for over 10 years and Chris for over 5 years and I really enjoy spending the whole day with them doing something for a club we all love. The day we agree to move to MK, ie: we actually move, I will quit straight away. Now, Brighton Womble, I hope that explains a little bit of the reasons we do work, we have never once promoted the merchandise vocally to WISA members and respect their protest. But you have a nerve to have a go at me with not even speaking to me, I have been sitting only a couple of seats away from you at reserve games recently and I will be there again, com and speak to me, I aint got a problem with talking to you. I await your comments
Stuart Deacons (stuart@sdeacons.fsnet.co.uk)
Mitcham, - Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 12:51:45 (PST)
I think Friday night was a bit of playing a changed team we just seemed to be getting the defence right and then we had to make a change with KC out and also missing DC made a difference. I still dont think we have our first choice defence sorted and the partner for DC is not guaranteed we also lack Trond in midfield but that would mean no place for Hughes (IMO). any other views?
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 12:31:08 (PST)
Does any one have any ideas on why with the talent we have our team seems to struggle to get a decent result lately?
TW
- Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 11:47:43 (PST)
'All this anti CK stuff is boring' Boring??????? FFS This man's(I'm being polite) trying to kill our club and you find it boring????? What d'you reccomend we do, how shall I liven it uo for you, get some cheerleaders on the pitch or something? Yeah lets do sweet FA, sit down and moan about it but just leave it and see what happens. That'll be productive won't it! And all this get behind the team stuff, the ones protesting down the front outside the directors entrance(my self included)trying to save OUR club, are the ones who are the most vocal getting behind the team. Sorry if it aint your cup of tea, but desperate times call for drastic measues. We've been treated like crap for the last ten years, now your gonna see the backlash. WTID
Matt (mattbtpl@aol.com)
South London, Not Milton Keynes - Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 09:14:42 (PST)
Right the infighting must stop on this
site now. Brighton Womble just seems to be doing his best to wind
everyone up always claiming to know everything and everyone else
being on Koppel's side and pro Milton Keynes. Check who owns and
pay's for mknoway.co.uk site and dont blame me for it not being
updated I handed it over to WISA free of charge. If all you want
to do is come on here are make trouble I think most people who
read the site would like it better if you did it either via e-mail
or on another site maybe your own or wisa's. Thanks for reading
and I hope the guestbook can get back to normal now.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 08:54:33 (PST)
Hello BW, how is it on your cloud? You dullard! Have half a brain before trying to post on here. Think about it laterally - if Paul R stopped working there, his wages would go straight into the Koppel fighting fund. Duh! Plus the fact, if everyone gets their way, you're all going to want merch. Will you have the balls to go and shop there now? Or are you as gutless as your current "Big man behind keyboard" attitude suggests?
Oh and by the way, have you ever actually spoken to any of the people you so actively slag off? Or are you relying on rumours which you slagged others off for listening to previously on here?
Get real.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Cloud Cuckoo (Cloud_Cuckoo_Land@hotmail.com)
Cloud 99, Oh look BW, no bad language! Off this planet - Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 08:28:50 (PST)
Firstly - some clarification - on 'I don't come here often' - I visit everyday, but only post a few times a year.
Fosters - dead right about Merton - as somebody said at OWFF recently - it's up to both the club and Merton sort out the problem - it's crazy that the fans have to go designing stadiums to get anyone to notice a chunk of land directly under a 'pin'. The difference between Merton and the club atm is that the club are doing their best to move us to MK, whilst Merton are working hard to find a solution not only in Merton, but in Boroughs other than their own. Hence no protests outside the Merton offices.
On the subject of what the 'SIX' sites are - it's one of the few things both WISA and CK agree on - publicising the location before detailed studies are completed may have a detrimental effect in terms of property developers, local residents, and of course getting peoples hopes up.
We have to forget past history - forget about Sam and whoever ran the council in those days - everything is about the future now - and whether there will be one in three years time. Everyone should be putting all their efforts into saving the club - not bit*hing about who did what whenever. That doesn't have to be sit-in protests, but it can be the other solutions like the Supporters Trust.
I'd like to ask everyone here a serious question - not meant to be preparation for a flame war - how many of you will support the MK Dons?
Ronan (rgwarde@ukgateway.net)
- Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 08:07:21 (PST)
I have never posted before, but after reading the drivel spouted by one or two on this board I feel I have to have a say.
Please could we be told where these 6 sites are in SW London, or is this just posturing by WISA members. Because I am pretty sure that you just can't put an 8000 seater wherever you like. Lets face it 8000 would do, because judging by the level of our support this season, a new 20/25000 seater stadium would just recreate the current situation at Scumhurst Park.
What happens if a Safeway Store is built on Plough Lane? the same Plough Lane Sam Hammam sold to line his own pockets, the same Plough Lane that the local council has let sit and decay over the past decade. Where does the Club go then, or will this be taken care of by one of the 6 potential sites, people have identified by looking at an A-Z and seeing big green areas, oh we could build on that!!!!!
What amazes me is that the council and Sam have got away with this. If people actually believe Merton will help then you are wrong. These are petty minded people who are only pandering to the desires of their electorate. These faceless wonders will be gone by the time of the next election, and then we can all be fodded off by the next set of community servents.
I do not beleive this club will end up in MK, nor do I want it too, but I feel that all these protests are a waste of time and doing the cause more harm than good. People know that the fans are angry but they don't want to continually hear about it, plus it is having an effect on the players. That much was obvious once the 25 or so tthe other night started blowing their whistles, my that was really really scarey. I think CK will probably resign now... get a grip. Surely it would be better to channel the current mood and make the council come up with a solution. All this anti CK stuff is boring and will not acheive a single thing. How many Club Chairman have actually gone because 100 fans are chanting for them to resign. If he goes, who comes in and what will be different?
Those that have a complex about this thing should really take a step back and take a look at the whole picture, otherwise they may lose a complete grip on reality.
Fosters Top
- Sunday, November 11, 2001 at 07:43:34 (PST)
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