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Don Worn
- Sunday, January 01, 2006 at 02:46:14 (PST)

Nick - I know what the point of the advert is and I am not a party pooper but unfortuantely IMO this is bad taste - Moving a club around is not funny
Mark Laedon
- Wednesday, November 30, 2005 at 11:22:49 (PST)

Can anyone tell me why it took so long for wayne to take throw in, and why dwayne was not taken off earlier when he seemed to give up so easy ?
andyneale (a battersea don)
- Wednesday, November 30, 2005 at 05:24:06 (PST)

Hey Paul... Justed wanted to let you know that you are doing a marvelous job and I always enjoy your updates from the matches as I am from Denmark and doesnt have the opportunity to go to the UK and the watch the matches(wish I had) But anyway KUPTGW ;-) Take care, Martin
Martin Germer <germer1976@hotmail.com>
Koge, Denmark - Tuesday, November 29, 2005 at 11:28:04 (PST)

mark - the whole point of the advert is to say how ridiculous the american system of american franchise is. i was as appalled as the next man by the MK move, but that advert is VERY funny. if you can never laugh at a satire of something you find wrong then what can you laugh at. lighten up a bit and stop taking everything so seriously.
nick
- Tuesday, November 29, 2005 at 06:52:02 (PST)

PS - I dont mean that about Dons supporters - I mean I find it disgusting that anyone should make an advert about it and try to make it amusing. Its not!
Mark
- Monday, November 28, 2005 at 11:19:32 (PST)

I know the Bud advert is supposed to be funny and about franchising, etc but for me its in bad taste after it happening to us. I actually find it pretty disgusting that anyone should find it amusing after MK move
Mark Leadon
- Monday, November 28, 2005 at 09:02:26 (PST)

About the Bud advert, are people not forgetting that Arsenal were the original franchised club anyway? And why is everyone panicking about attendances? WFC survived on well below average crowds for years. You can't expect to go from 3,000 for a League Cup match against Everton (granted it was at Selhurst) to an average of 5,000 for games against teams like Redbridge (no disrespect meant - I think you know what I mean). AFCW got a big sympathy vote to start with, but maybe that has started to ebb away? Still, a season of consolidation won't hurt.
Edinburgh City Don
- Monday, November 28, 2005 at 01:50:55 (PST)

Mark I find it funny as they are all stupid suggeestions and saying they wouln't do it. It's also a whole advert on franchises.
Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Sunday, November 27, 2005 at 23:58:04 (PST)

Anyone else find the budweiser advert annoying not funny? - Moving Arsenal to Lake District might be tongue in cheek but bearing in mind the MK move, I dont like it one little bit
Mark Leadon
- Sunday, November 27, 2005 at 14:59:24 (PST)

Copied from the Wealdstone website: The first half was goalless, then Heybridge took the lead early in the second half after a mistake by Lee Chappell, but Rob Ursell fired up the Stones from midfield, setting up goals for both Beckford and Burrell Just minutes into the second half and Heybridge took the lead when Chappell completely missed his kick leaving a forward an easy goal belting the ball past the exposed Benstead. Stones bounced back though and equalised within minutes after great play from Ursell saw him beat a number of players before crossing the ball for Jermaine to slot home. Things got better in the 70th minute when Ursell again did well on the ball and slipped it to Burrell who shot home powerfully from about 20 yards. Let's hope that he doesn't injure himself in the weeks he has at the Stones!!
Derek Chaplin <derek@chaplin72.freeserve.co.uk>
- Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 05:34:45 (PST)

Totally agree with you on that point Richard. I read the match report on wealdstones website and it seems that Rob set up 2 of their goals and got man of the match. I think that speaks volumes about his fitness. Surely a 60% fit Rob Ursell is better than having Steve Butler in mnidfield
afcrob
morden, - Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 02:29:42 (PST)

Yes I'm going on about Ursell again. Nice to see him being largely responsible for Wealdstone's win the other night but could we not have done with him for 20+ minutes at Chelmsford? or a comparatively longer easy introduction against Redbridge. The only good thing is that he is playing against Staines & Fisher in the next games....if he survives!
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 01:03:49 (PST)

Hello! Thaks from me to you job this is site! Sorry for my poor english:(
Henriko
NewYork, NY USA - Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 00:02:17 (PST)

Right think I have sorted out the new problem with the league table, will put up a link to the smaller version. - Regading suspensions always 2 weeks after the sending off so they could start next midweek , if we have a trophy game or the following Saturday.
Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 19:25:04 (PST)

By the way Paul, i can see a lot less of the table than before, I can only see fron the drawn games.
sandy
- Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 12:16:22 (PST)

Hello Paul, can you tell me when the suspensions for our players start. Thank you
sandy
- Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 11:59:38 (PST)

Video from last night now up at http://www.donsonline.co.uk
Woking Jon
- Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 11:56:57 (PST)

What a fantastic change in refs. - last night proved that at least one appointment in the Rymans League can do the job, and do it well. Well done the officials - seemed all the decisions were right - gave the players a talking to rather than bookings all over the place, delayed the match rather than abandon it, and did not act like a prima donna. Of course, it was good to win too.
Jonno
Ashtead, - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 05:45:11 (PST)

Mark - try http://www.itmustbedons.com/0506table8x6.html Paul - perhaps you should put a link to this table where everyone can see it?
Rick
- Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 00:37:39 (PST)

Paul - Just for info, dont want to sound critical - But I went on League table at work today - you can only see 4 lines of numbers! Not even a name of any club.
Mark Leadon
- Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 00:28:46 (PST)

In terms of attendances going down I think that for many the novelty of the club and the feeling of a need to support it have gone. The regular devoted following has not changed and they need to bring/introduce others to the club. Yes there have been more away fans but it is still a minimal number.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 06:43:40 (PST)

It has surprised me just how much negativitely there is still and the constant talk of being a mid table team. We have been nowhere near midtable so far this season and I still feel that we could easily finish higher than Fisher & Staines. I have been disappointed with some of DAs buys in that he tells us how wonderful they are going to be, especially Matt Yorke. It is disappointing that Walton & Bromley have both made greater strides since last year on no resources. The Hampton game shows how well they can play which rather makes me wonder about the set up of the team is when they lose at Chelmsford. But don't talk about being midtable until we are. I still think the play offs are well within reach.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 06:40:34 (PST)

Andy I don't think Steve Butler has the consistency or presence to be a proper leader. He's a good player, no doubt, but not a captain. In the absence of Matt E I'd hand it over to Gelly now.
Tomato Swig <tom@todee.fsnet.co.uk>
- Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 06:04:54 (PST)

afcrob, your comments about fans not coming with kids anymore might also reflect on whats happening on the pitch, I cannot see how our captain Steve Butler being sent off twice in as many months can set an example to the younger fans, Before you all start moaning I will let you know I am a great fan of Steve's and think he does a good job in defence and is not recinised enougth for the work he does, but should he still be captain, I don't know.
andyneale (a battersea don)
- Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 06:02:54 (PST)

When AFC were formed the target was league football in 10 seasons. To do that we had to achieve 4 promotions CCL to Rymans 1 ro Rymans Premier to Conference to League. In 3 seasons we managed 2 of those promotions so were ahead of the plan in my opinion. OK, the introduxtion of the new Nationwide South level may put that back a couple of years. But come on guys WE ARE DOING BLOODY WELL! Another season in Rymans Premier then a couple in Nationwide South would mean the Conference in just our 8th season. OK we may slow down there and take 4/5 years to get up again but come on Football League 13 years after formation would be BRILLIANT. So let's be a bit patient and give the squad time to mature and gel.
Tomato Swig <tom@todee.fsnet.co.uk>
- Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 06:01:35 (PST)

I think there is one reason that the crowds have dropped. A lot of people I have spoken to will not bring their kids anymore because of the stupid little boys who like to think they are hooligans. We all know who they are but we dont seem to do anything about it. Dont get me wrong im no prude and was no stranger to the odd bit of trouble at plough lane, but those days are long gone. We need to eradicate these little boys who think they are tough. I was next to them when we played Aldershot. They were really mouthy until a couple of Aldershot supporters approached them and then they complained to the police. Real tough guys. Its a shame that these few idiots are getting the club a bad name and I think keeping some of the crowds away. Hey, but what do i know
afcrob
morden, - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 00:27:55 (PST)

jakedon11 the point about gloryhunters, obviously theres a difference between the Manchester United type of gloryhunter and what I was talking about. So its not a gloryhunter is the Manchester United sense. However there will be some supporters of any club which will only come when the team is successful, and it appears that we can't attract them at the moment.
don
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 09:11:36 (PST)

Couple of points, firstly this season we have had more away fans than ever before so the drop in our attendences is very worrying. Last season we seemed to have so many mid-week homegames which is why I thought the gates went down last season, but it seems we can't keep hold of casual supporters. It's claer that the people who post on here care for teh club and sttend but it is us who need to bring down more people each week. I have to say that each time I have brought people down they have loved it and I should do it more, and so should you lot. Last point, gloryhunters? Do we really have gloryhunters at AFC Wimbledon, I don't think so.
jakedon11
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 09:06:58 (PST)

Certainly its not all doom and gloom. I think Aldershots dip can be explained by the league positions. In the previous two seasons they were in the playoffs, now they are near the bottom. I reckon that the main reason for the dip in attendances here is also the "lack of success" this season. I put "lack of success" in quotes, because success can mean different things to different people. If your definition of success is running away at the top of the league, then no we are not being successful. If your definition of success is avoiding relegation, then we are being successful. And lets face it, theres not a lot of difference in quality to a casual supporter between the Ryman Premier, Ryman 1, and the CCL, which makes the whole argument "but we got promoted" argument a bit irrelevant imo. But although the "gloryhunters" are staying away, I do think something more could be done to attract them back.
don
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 08:02:08 (PST)

Don - I agree with your measured and sensible comments. It should be noted however that other clubs have also seen a drop in attendance e.g. Aldershot down 19.2% Looking at Kempsters we had the 93rd highest attendance nationally last season, we are currently down 1 to 94th which can be accounted for by FCUM
Rick
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 07:38:54 (PST)

oh well I might as well make it 3 in 4 posts (not quite getting a hatrick.) Don't forget other teams just love to beat AFC Wimbledon as its their cup final. They all put in extra effort against us, (go to another ryman premier league game without AFC Wimbledon in it, and notice the difference) obviously our players have got to overcome it, but that probably means being 10% better, if the other team are putting in say 10% extra effort.
don
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 07:30:07 (PST)

oh and while its on my mind, how many people within Wimbledon are actually aware that the club even exists. (And I mean those without the internet.) How many are missing the franchise without being aware that there is a perfectly good replacement (albeit currently playing in Kingston.) How many might go if they were aware? Raymond (I don't know if you know this but I suppose I'll ask you anyway) does the club advertise games on local radio, and in the newspapers etc.
don
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 07:21:33 (PST)

TW you say, " Did you really expect to start from nothing and climb into to league and overtake the 'franchise.'?" I actually think thats part of the problem. Most of the fans of AFC Wimbledon would say yes we do expect it. And of course its right that the club is aiming for it. After the previous two seasons we've just had, 2 doubles, 4 trophies, a English senior football league unbeaten 78 game record, an unbeaten CCL season, 180 goals in the CCL season, Cooper setting scoring record for Wimbledon, 2 promotions in a row, a lot of media coverage, that for the majority of the fan base losing to Chelmsford on an icy Novemeber afternoon is not in the majority of fans minds. Of course the success of the last two seasons have actually led fans to believe that the overtaking of franchise could and actually would happen within a matter of years. Obviously though fans are only making these comments because they care. The attendance dip is IMO a bit worrying, a 7.5% drop (according to Tony Kempster) from last season to this season. As Raymond says there could be all sorts of reasons, however 7.5% is only 215 people, it could be these people are "gloryhunters" but whatever the reason is some body needs to ask them. As to what we can do to get more supporters (and btw I think every football club should look to do this, even if attendances our rising, until they reach their capacity limit) well how about a "bring a friend day," or "kids for a quid day." Also wondering if AFC Wimbledon have got their prices right, (although I was in favour of the price rise) but maybe that puts off casual fans.
don
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 07:16:44 (PST)

Paul - Do you know if the weather continues as it is at present if the game would go ahead tomorrow. i.e. is the pitch frozen in early evening?
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 06:16:52 (PST)

IMO after 2 successive promotions and serveral changes of personnel were going as well as anyone has a right to expect. I'm hoping that we can build on the improved performances (Bromley & Chelmsford excepted) and step-up to that extra level required to compeate for a play-off place. I expect the middle of the table up to the last play-off place to be pretty tight and anyone not out of contention come Easter has a chance.
Rick
- Monday, November 21, 2005 at 05:49:05 (PST)

Hey Lads, you're off again. Come on, give the team a break. Did you really expect to start from nothing and climb into to league and overtake the 'franchise.'? Stop dreaming and get real. My local club has been working on a shoestring for years. We applied, and rightly, turned down for membership to the Scottish League,(Gretna took the vacancy). Did we cry and moan? Did we****. We took a look at our set up, decided it was the best we could do under the circumstances, showed faith in our manager and supported the team. Managers and players come and go, the strength of a club lies in its support. So prove it.
TW
- Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 11:33:15 (PST)

I understand but WE are different - or should be. Potentially we could have over 4000 supporters, or did have on formation. Gates are even worse, when you consider we now have away supporters attending our home games. In CCL, we had no away supporters but all 4 sides of KM were pretty full. No-one is knocking the die hard fans but we need to reach out to AFC sympathisers before these people stop coming at all.
Dave Hill
- Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 05:41:57 (PST)

Dave my point is that attendance at all levels of football are down, also if you look at last season attendances most were sub 2,800 with only the games against Tooting & Mitcham, first game of the season, the Bank Holiday fixtures and last four games of the season were 3k+ all very high profile games and last three had promotion/championship and presentations.
Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 05:33:41 (PST)

Paul - IMO, we shouldnt worry about other teams but just ourselves. Attendances falling is worrying. We should be getting over 3000 when you consider out history
Dave
- Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 04:53:31 (PST)

Dave Hill - Have a look at attendances at football in general and in our division and after taking out our away attendances I think you will find most clubs attendances have dropped by more than ours. I supose it dependss what people go to watch football for if it's to see teams win by big score lines week in week out we were never going to do this in this league, and no team does but the games have been a lot better this season even if we havent always come away with points.
Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 03:06:37 (PST)

Someone said yesterday - "2 mid table teams, playing against each other" and realistically thats what it was. We are actually in a false position and will be lower once other teams play their games in hand. The biggest worrying aspect of the season so far is the drop in attendances especially at home. We need to continue the momentum and we dont want the bubble to burst.
Dave Hill
- Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 02:51:04 (PST)

Before yesterday a lot of supporters said we would do well to get a point out of based on chelmsford recent form. I think our disciplinee this year has been good but I think thee ref could of stopped Steve Butler's sending off if he had booked him earlier like perhaps he should of, we missed gell yesterday as i think he does the brilliant box to box job that we missed. As for the comment about "Sergant, Farr, Moore, Sobihy" not being good enough Sarrgent always does a job when he plays, Farr from the bench is a good option, Moore I presume you are nottalking about Barry? Sobihy no complaints about. Most of our supporters thought we would be round positions 4-8 places and I cant see any reason we wont be.
Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 02:01:14 (PST)

What happened to the disipline this season? Steve Butler needs to grow up as 2 x already has proved very costly, Sohiby you could have cost us the match the other night and Matt Fowler if u got fit u might not need to be so agressive and lash out!Frankie I will let off as he is a consistent performer for the club and this is just a blip. Sorry to bring this up BUT I am just frustrated at the team's inconsistency this year. The team seems to be missing some vital ingredients for success. We can all see it from the terraces BUT I am not sure Dave can!
Crawley Donna
- Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 00:26:45 (PST)

What the hell happened yesterday? Looks like we are in for a long season chasing the pack. We certainly need to look at a few players and consider changes. Yorke came to the club with name but failed. There are a few others in the same category. Dave - sort the midfield out for God's sake. No holding player, no decent ball winner (okay Gell is an improvement!) and a desperate need for someone to win a header.Come on we are close BUT not close enough. My prediction is 9th for the season...JUST!
Derrick P
- Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 00:16:01 (PST)

Mr Anderson it appears we seem to have totally blowen it! You have a large squad yet still feel the need to put a central defender in midfield. Umpteen full backs that are not given time to settle and a frontline of one. Losing yesterday has assured many that we are not good enough. You rang numerous changes on moving from the CCL to Ryman 1 BUT simply underestimated the challange facing us this season. You may say it's about the budget which is a restriction but what about loan players from QPR or Palace? What about off loading the some of the below par players like Sergant, Farr, Moore, Sobihy and a few others! The teams challenging for the honours this season have strength, are BIG and are settled. We make change for change sake (roll over Mr Chelsea Manager). Only a couple of players can cut the grade for us and are consistent - R Butler, Frankie and Little.
Disappointed Don
- Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 00:08:25 (PST)

Rob - I do hope you're wrong. We need to get the debt paid off but not by becoming a feeder club for other non-league teams. We could take £10,000 very quickly with a good cup run and that can only be more likely if RU is with us. Just look at the DVDs of last season to realise quite how important he is.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Friday, November 18, 2005 at 01:30:27 (PST)

Rob - Nothing like a bit of speculation to get people through the next few months and They ryman forum is great for that.
Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Friday, November 18, 2005 at 00:10:36 (PST)

I should point out that the comment on the end about it being a good deal for AFC was part of the quote and not added by me. I do think the money would come in handy but would rather keep Rob
afcrob
morden, - Friday, November 18, 2005 at 00:04:31 (PST)

Rob Ursell - the truth... Written by J-H&RBFC; on the Ryman forum I been doing some work for someone who is well known throughout non-league football, and in the professional set-up too, and he has heard a rumour that Rob Ursell's loan move was persuaded to AFC Wimbledon by Aldershot who if Ursell can prove his fitness are willing to offer AFC £10,000. And Ursell £700p/w. They want in January, and realized he wouldn't be back in AFC line-up for a while, so have paid AFC a £2,000 transfer deposit if they send him out on loan to get back to fitness. The deal could also involve one or two players joining AFC from Aldershot on loan in January. Sounds like a good deal for AFC to me, especially for a player who hasn't played this season!
afcrob
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NewYork, NY USA - Thursday, November 17, 2005 at 12:43:20 (PST)

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Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Thursday, November 17, 2005 at 10:22:24 (PST)

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Paul Raymond <webmaster@itmustbedons.com>
Tooting, London England - Thursday, November 17, 2005 at 10:11:45 (PST)

No, nothing about any ice.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Wednesday, November 16, 2005 at 08:03:17 (PST)

Not sure he mentioned ice at all baby...
Vanilla
- Wednesday, November 16, 2005 at 07:01:01 (PST)

Richard where have you seen anything about Wealsdtone? Also can you explain the comment about on thin ice? As surely dave job is about getting results and representing the club well and I think on the whole the answer to this is yees he is.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, November 16, 2005 at 06:44:44 (PST)

Yes but to Wealdstone!! What is the point in that. If he is good enough & fit enough to play for them he should be playing with us. Rather tempting for one of our rivals to give him a hard time in the next few weeks. Dave is walking a very thin line on Thursday after the ridiculous Chester farce of last year.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Wednesday, November 16, 2005 at 05:05:33 (PST)

Two reasons why it might be better for Urse to go on loan rather than play for the reserves: 1) Look at the reserve fixtures - he would be plaing against the *reserves* of sides like Whyteleafe, Netherne Village, Chipstead, Walton Casuals - any first team action at Ryman's First would be a better standard IMO. 2) Reserve game scheduling is more erratic and prone to cancellation - they have played just 7 league games so far.
Rick
- Tuesday, November 15, 2005 at 05:16:28 (PST)

'We might be looking to get Rob out on Loan!!' I do hope that this is a joke on the official site. Surely he can play in the reserves with some smaller appearances in the first team until fit. The last thing we want is him playing for another club and getting injured there. We have far less control over how much he plays etc. than if he is with us. Although a different scenario please lets not go up teh Chester road again.
Richard B anothjer Wiltshire Don
- Tuesday, November 15, 2005 at 01:30:00 (PST)

Looks like if we beat ramsgate we have a tricky away game at dartford.
jakedon11
- Tuesday, November 15, 2005 at 00:54:24 (PST)

But now the Worthing v Redbridge league game tomorrow has been called off now, because Worthing are involved in FA Trophy 2Q Replay.
don
- Monday, November 14, 2005 at 11:47:33 (PST)

Dave - No, all FA Trophy games although 1 game this week, from memory.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, November 13, 2005 at 11:28:05 (PST)

great work on the Ryman Prem map
Nigel Higgs
- Sunday, November 13, 2005 at 11:22:11 (PST)

were there any ryman prem league results yesterday?
Dave Hill
- Sunday, November 13, 2005 at 09:02:53 (PST)

It took me a long time to decide what to do once the Franchise moved to MK, having supported them since 1971. Eventually I went with the obvious - " support your local team"!
Peter Shilling (shivilino@hotmail.com)
London, UK - Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 15:04:24 (PST)

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GLENN TRIGGER MULCAIRE (info@ninenewsandpr.com)
- Friday, November 11, 2005 at 03:57:51 (PST)

Re train travel to Ramsgate. Trains divide at Ashford International, but it's more complicated than that. On the 23 minutes past the hour from London you should be in the front portion which continues fast to Ramsgate, but on the 53 past the hour you should be in the rear portion, which then continues fast to Ramsgate. The best advice is to be guided by the on-train information and/or the guard. Good luck everyone in getting the right portion!
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Petersfield, - Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 15:42:01 (PST)

Full league cup draw - Leatherhead v Slough; Braintree v Wealdstone; Heybridge Swifts v Chelmsford City; AFC Wimbledon v Hendon; Fisher v Hampton & Richmond; Billericay v Tooting & Mitcham; Dover v Bromley; Harrow Borough v Worthing; ..according to the Chelmsford website.
afcrob
Morden, - Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 04:25:46 (PST)

At home to Hendon in the league cup. Oh what a joy
afcrob
Morden, - Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 04:21:04 (PST)

Maldon & Staines highlights on http://www.donsonline.co.uk/php/index.php
Strawberry (strawberry@donsonline.co.uk)
- Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 17:36:38 (PST)

Don - Matt Misses Tonight, Saturday and either the Ramsgate replay if their is one or the next league game.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 15:05:06 (PST)

I see matt fowler is suspended tonight. Which 3 matches does he miss? Does it cover all AFC Wimbledon first team games or just Ryman ones?
don
- Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 06:59:37 (PST)

Jos - it's anything you want it to be at itmustbedons dot com but I have the email you were talking about and i will use either once I get home tonight or tomorrow. Thanks very useful information.
Paul Raymond
- Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 06:28:35 (PST)

paur r what is your email addy?
jos (josbernard1@aol.com)
london, uk - Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 05:39:25 (PST)

Good result on Saturday and a good team performance, can't say the same about the program. Fully of silly errors, the table at the back says we have Played 15, W6, D6, L6 (nope, not a typo by me)One page has details of our cup match tonight, fixture list doesn't have it listed at all, along with other erros. Plus loads of other silly errors in the stats and the program as a whole, who is (or isn't....) editing it now ??
Matt
Crawley, - Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 03:42:33 (PST)

Did anyone else notice that Steve Butler got the sponsors man of the match on saturday. Good to see that the humour hasn't gone out the game.
jakedon11
- Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 01:02:35 (PST)

Jake - Someone posted over on the message board that Gavin was having further talks with Dave at the weekend, dont know what the current situation is. - I think we will be in your white kit tonight as Staines wear Yellow and Blue.
paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, November 07, 2005 at 23:18:32 (PST)

j mullarkey - I heard the Grant story last week and apparently he turned us down.
rickc
- Monday, November 07, 2005 at 15:42:32 (PST)

app we have put in a seven day app for young striker called gavin grant at t+m utd
j mullarkey
- Monday, November 07, 2005 at 15:09:04 (PST)

AFCrob - after your good spot last week this one is a bit Andius Robertus as Dobo has been at Crroydon Athetic for over a month now.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, November 07, 2005 at 09:39:24 (PST)

Gelly played well and a few mates who hadn't seen him play before were impressed. Well done Anderson.
jakedon11
- Monday, November 07, 2005 at 06:02:56 (PST)

Dobbo junior played for Croydon Athletic last week
afcrob
morden, - Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:24:35 (PST)

Great to see Gelly back in midfield with a solid performance
Ian
Epsom - Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:05:20 (PST)

Good Morning everyone. The October Goal of the Month poll is now up and running, please visit www.ayorkshirewomble.com to cast your votes.
WakefieldWomble
- Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:53:27 (PST)

Paul, it must have been a long game for it to take 220 mins for smeltz to score, Still a good game to watch though.
andyneale (a battersea don)
- Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 06:44:30 (PST)

Interesting spot Rob, well done. Shame to see Matt go just a shame at the moment he plays in a position we dont have a shortage of players for :(
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, November 04, 2005 at 09:32:47 (PST)

Matt Yorke was training at Carshalton Athletic last night and i believe he may have signed.
afcrob
morden, - Friday, November 04, 2005 at 01:31:04 (PST)

Great to see Chris Gell back, masybe just what we need again in defence etc.
andyneale (a battersea don)
- Thursday, November 03, 2005 at 04:51:55 (PST)

Cheers Dave try the following url http://www.itmustbedons.com/0506table8x6.html
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, November 02, 2005 at 23:53:35 (PST)

Paul - Great site but just for info; I can only see half a league table too on my screen.
Dave Hill
- Wednesday, November 02, 2005 at 14:55:49 (PST)

Jake - Should be in the main game folder very simple to use find the club you want to move (i.e. us) click swap then type in the club you want to replace and press swap again. :) - Rich, No news yet but apparently a possible target has turned us down - The Coney I see that is in the premier cup which our reserves enter we have to beat Met Police and you have to beat Farleigh Rovers and would be played in january if it did happen.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Tuesday, November 01, 2005 at 09:51:59 (PST)

Only won more game each and the nice people of Coney Hall shalll again grace you with your presence. Hopefully dubious officials and bunch of idiots will not spoil the occasion.
The Coney
- Tuesday, November 01, 2005 at 08:31:30 (PST)

Has anyone heard anything about the new signing we are rumoured to be making? Names/Position/quality etc
Rich
Manchester, UK - Tuesday, November 01, 2005 at 07:21:19 (PST)

Good to see you have got football manager 2006 paul. Where abouts is the editor on the game?
jakedon11
- Tuesday, November 01, 2005 at 06:56:19 (PST)

I see Tony Kempster has already worked out who we will be playing next season!!http://www.tonykempster.btinternet.co.uk/maps06-07.htm. Even more spread out than this year. Can only hope he is wrong.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Tuesday, November 01, 2005 at 01:21:46 (PST)

Dave - No date as of yet but as the surrey FA site says it's to be played between 28/11/05 and 13/12/06 it may be a week or so beffore we hear.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Monday, October 31, 2005 at 23:46:35 (PST)

Any news on the date for our SSC game against Ash yet? 13th Dec?
Dave
- Monday, October 31, 2005 at 14:08:20 (PST)

Sparky - Can you be a bit more specific do you mean the text commentary via the link above, what happens do you get an error message or just nothing?
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 10:29:48 (PST)

Paul - having problems with your match day service as it never seems to work! Have spoken to a few others with the same issue. Am I doing something wrong?
Sparky Austin
- Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 08:37:03 (PST)

Sandy - Sounds what the likes of Leeds, Sheffield Wed, Derby Leicester and even Hornchurch tried to do. You rise through the leagues to quickly and then we find we have major problems with capacity of the ground. To make £100,000 + out of cup we would have to go a very long way in the competition.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 04:34:46 (PST)

Paul.If you want something in life, sometimes you have to take a ckance. You keep making comments about a sensible budget,look at it this way,the quicker we go at the leagues,and the further we go in cup competions,the bigger gates we will get,and the more money will come in. If we have a good strong squad,and with a bit of luck go all the way on the F.A trophy,the money from a run like that will more or less paid all the debt. And if we manage to get a game or two on television at about £100000 to £150000 will come in very handy.
sandy
- Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 02:23:18 (PST)

Windsor & Eton match highlights and new flags on http://www.donsonline.co.uk/php/index.php
Strawberry (strawberry@donsonline.co.uk)
- Saturday, October 29, 2005 at 12:44:38 (PDT)

Sandy: If you want to know "where all the money is going" - all you have to do is look at the account sheets. They are available on the OS and are reasonably easy to understand.
Colin Green
Weybridge, - Friday, October 28, 2005 at 15:21:06 (PDT)

Sandy - Just checked the FA site and yes thee ground is now of conference standard, although not league standard. I must say I find your second comment very strange, and in my opinion is very borderline as to staying on the site. I would imagine it could well be another 3 years at the earliest before the club debt free. I would imagine we would continue with a sensible budget rather than getting into a crazy spend situation like otheer clubs have done and ended up in big problems.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, October 28, 2005 at 10:33:45 (PDT)

Paul. The ground is of conference standard,so once the ground is paid for I wouls find it difficult to understand if a lot more money is not put into getting a decent squad. And I for one would question wrere all the money is going to. Anyway the way we are playing it will be a long time before we smell the conference.
sandy
- Friday, October 28, 2005 at 09:22:03 (PDT)

Jakedon.............11.........................enough said
Lloydy
- Friday, October 28, 2005 at 08:56:40 (PDT)

Lloydy- I can give you a nice summary of the game if you wish, or you can look at the official site and get the summary. I guess that is where you get your info about our games. In response to being a tricky winger, yes you are correct I am and I play at a very high standard!!!
jakedon11
- Friday, October 28, 2005 at 08:52:47 (PDT)

jake Don 11 - Firstly why the number 11? what is that all that about?? JakeDon the tricky winger of It Must be dons......Secondly, can you please give us a detailed match report of the Hampton game you seem to knw alot about.
Lloydy
- Friday, October 28, 2005 at 08:50:00 (PDT)

Er Lloydy, when was the last time you went to a game????
jakedon11
- Friday, October 28, 2005 at 08:36:09 (PDT)

Anon - Apparently it's not at present they may have changed the requiremnts so that teams in confference can qualify ffor league if they qqualify.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Friday, October 28, 2005 at 07:33:58 (PDT)

but the ground is a conference standard ground anyway.
anon
- Friday, October 28, 2005 at 06:37:33 (PDT)

Dont think once the debt is paid off it will mean we have loads to spend on wages, first of all we will be able to make more improvements to ground, which we will need if we are to get to conference / League level. - Any sensible club would set out a budget for not only the coming season but also future seasons in case finances wern't a sstrong.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 10:55:23 (PDT)

What we have to remember is that when DA took over as manager, he said we'll be in the conference in 3 years, so this was always going to be a year of consolidation, build a solid base of the squad and kick on next season. so If we finish mid table this season, or just miss out on the play off's, providing we sign REAL QUALITY, over the summer then we should be ok.
Lloydy
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 07:05:21 (PDT)

Richard, We might be 7th but if teams win their games in hand, were about 11th!...mid table. I still think we can be higher though. As for 3 wins on a bounce...Yes you are right, but they were against weak opposition and bar Fisher, every time we play a high team, we dont win.
Dave Hill
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 06:23:50 (PDT)

'players dont want to come to us because our fans moan all the time and jump straigth on there back'...That really is the biggest load of nonsense we have had since the oppression of the Chelsea fans two weeks ago. They would love to play for us with our set up and crowds. How many players would have wanted to be Dons at the Hampton game? The problem is for once and for all WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MONEY. We still owe £700,000 and until it is paid we cannot compete with wages for players at present let alone The Conference. When players do well or at least put the effort in they get all the support they want and when they play badly or show little interest they get the moans. It happens at all ground and has done since the game was invented!
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 05:39:35 (PDT)

jakedon11 why should we emply Leon McDowell. Kevin Cooper would be a better bet. ;-)
anon
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 04:13:44 (PDT)

i think it will be hard to give leon another chance considering he might be heading for jail for armed robbery, i think we need a striker who has played pro football, we missed out on nic mcdonnel who scored against us and we could of tried for luke fontana who as gone to carshalton, players dont want to come to us because our fans moan all the time and jump straigth on there back
chigwell lee
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 03:58:29 (PDT)

I agree with Andys post re the Bromley game and in the team in general, ie we lack leaders massively. You hear all the time from DA on the Os that we have a great spirit etc but we dont seem to see that on the pitch imo. Currently we're a mid table side in this league as we can't get a run going. If we want to go up we need to sign another 4 or 5 players imo.......And Leon Mcdowell is not the answer Jakedon11.
Lloydy
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 03:18:42 (PDT)

anon- I think even you realise that I was talking about our inept strikers when Richard Butler doesn't play, and exaggerated the point by saying about the ccl. I think Ian got the point by saying anyone could score in the ccl. I would still like Leon Mc to come back and given a chance.
jakedon11
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 01:13:35 (PDT)

Dave without wanting to monopolise the board the answers are we have not been lower than 7th and yes we did the first three games.
Richard B another Wiltshire
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 01:08:43 (PDT)

Howard & Smeltz is the answer but do not know the connection. Suggesting Fisher were good is just looking at the League positions. Their two central defenders were a disaster and five was constantly having a go at no. 4. The No.11 who went off at half time was the most unfit and ineffective player I have seen in a long time and the No. 8 turned 21 seemingly had no control of the ball or himself at any time. They were not a patch on Hampton and as with a certain team the other night seemed incapable of stringing two passes together. I am all in favour of looking on the bright side of things and being optimistic but this is just blind faith. Assuming things are better than they are just lowers the standards we need to reach.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 00:56:55 (PDT)

I think that we are a mid table team. We cannot string 3 wins together on the bounce. If we could then we still could get to play offs. We certainly need more players as our squad looks bear
Dave Hill
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 15:40:48 (PDT)

Bromley video on http://www.donsonline.co.uk/php/index.php
Strawberry (strawberry@donsonline.co.uk)
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 13:54:52 (PDT)

Can someone tell me who scored away at East Thurrock and home to Bromley and the relevance of these two games?
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 12:03:26 (PDT)

correction - is the point I was making.
anon
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 10:19:52 (PDT)

We scored 180 goals against the CCL teams in 46 matches without Richard Butler. I do not see how we have to prove to anyone that we can score against CCL sides. Plus we did it without Richard Butler is all I was making, in responce to the original comment: "without Richard Butler we would struggle against CCL sides."
anon
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 10:18:45 (PDT)

Bit of round up on the various posts - Fisher wernt poor on Saturday it's the same way they play every game, but we wernt intimidatded by it and stuck to our plan. - With regards to the 'headbutt' I was standing between the corrner flag and edge of box on the side it happened and I didnt see it, nor did anyone near us the closest people who saw it said it was an elbow. We wernt losing when Shane was on the pitch and maybe if he was on second half with the wind behind us he may have scored, we saw on Saturday the benefit of a goal right on half time. Perhaps we will get to see if we can score against CCL sides when we play Ash in the Surrey Senior cup, will the front line be rested, or atleast Richard Butler? Sorry I clapped the team off the pitch but their again football is about supporting through good times and bad yesterday was one of the bad days, but compared to what we used to go through I would take yesterday any day of the week to what it used to be like.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 09:46:35 (PDT)

Anybody could score in the CCL
Ian
Epsom, - Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 08:42:11 (PDT)

jakedon11 we went a whole season unbeaten in the CCL without Richard Butler. Or do you just want to ignore that.
anon
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 07:03:58 (PDT)

Last nights performance was one of the worst I have seen in our history. I never leave early. The last time I did was Vs. Bristol City in the Peter Withe days. I didn't do to avoid the traffic either because I only live 100 metres away from Bromley. There was no passion out there. How can you put out a team without a leader or any one with any charactter. The players did not talk to each other let alone motivate each other. Bromley may be technically better but there's no excuse for any of our players not to play with passion and to be well organised. The sending off of Matt Fowler was utterly ridiculous and shows a huge amount of disrespect to the fans. Nothing less than an appology to the fans should be tolerated. I want players who appreciate the uniqueness of the club they play for. What is the story with Dwayne Plummer and his ridculous shorts? If you want to be a clown join the circus. When you cross that white line, you focus 100% on AFC Wimbledon and the match. I also can't believe the attitude of the fans. I hope that the team was booed off the pitch but I doubt it. Some people even clapped off Matt Fowler. I don't believe in getting on players backs but if you play for my team like that then don't expect to get away with it. The match reporter on the AFC Wimbledon Site seems to be a prime example of this attitude...."'disappointing"...."Here's hoping"......"turn matters round"..... The match reporter also managed to miss the most blatent headbut since Duncan Ferguson in his prime. It would not be possible to miss that headbut if you were Alex Ferguson and the head butting was done by Roy Keane. Had to get that off my chest....
Andy
Bromley, - Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 05:07:35 (PDT)

Jake - I go from one extreme to the other because unfortunately so do the team! The performance against Hampton was excellent and the last two results very good so one had grounds for optimism. I have to say the performance was more annoying than the result. I can handle losing but not when it is so limp a display.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 03:22:26 (PDT)

Bromley were the better side. Why? Because when we have players out through injury or suspension the replacements are, sadly, not up to it. It will be interesting to see what happens when Ursell returns (apart from Dave shouting abuse at him, of course), not least because he might have altered the balance of the game last night by at least posing some problems for the Bromley midfield and defence. Without him and a reasonable run of luck with injuries and supensions you can't see us mounting a serious challenge on last night's evidence.
big john (uk)
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 03:08:37 (PDT)

Richard B you go from one extreme to another. Without Richard Butler we would struggle against Combined Counties teams. Now will you acknowledge that playoffs would be nice but won't happen this season. We will get close but we have already dropped so many points against very poor teams
jakedon11
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 01:24:06 (PDT)

Positive Spin is ok when you are living in San Diego but not quite so appreciated when one has a two and a half hour drive home from a truly feeble performance. Yes we will always miss Richard Butler but then we do have an International replacement but obviously one that needs a different service and not the endless wasted punts upfield and in a swirling wind. Steve Butler has not been himself since his sending off but surely Sohiby should be ample replacement for him but at times we were constantly outnumbered at the back. Yes the wind was not good but then Bromley managed to play and ALONG THE GROUND to great effect. When Sonny placed another wasted ball into space and people understandably moaned, Dave said 'he is only a kid' but I do not remember such understanding with Ursell & Gibson who he always seemed to be having a go at. The icing on the cake was the endless fouls that we made all night which highlighted how off the pace we were and the total lack of control there was. I am afraid that this idea of if the results had been switched around then we would all be very happy is really scraping the barrel as we beat a bad Fisher team and should have built on this and I have to say it is beyond me quite why our three last worst performances have been against the two teams we came up with.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 01:10:54 (PDT)

Thanks for the match write up Paul. Thats what I love about this site you alaways find a way to put a positive spin on things. Great job. Keep it up.
Andrew
San Diego, CA USA - Tuesday, October 25, 2005 at 21:25:11 (PDT)

Please don't tell me we lost to Bromley 2nite. After a good win v Fisher we go and blow it against that lot! I am so annoyed. Did we play the kids? Glad I couldn't make the game.
upset don
- Tuesday, October 25, 2005 at 14:14:00 (PDT)

Well done on saturdays great result lets hope thats the start of our season and we move up the table, lets have a good turn out of fans at bromley on tuesday and cheer the team on to another 3 points
Ian
Epsom, - Monday, October 24, 2005 at 01:23:19 (PDT)

Hopefully saturday's result puts to bed this rubbish about how we will not get into the play offs and everyone else is so much better in the division. I thought Fisher were truly awful. Most of them looked unfit with no ideas at all, summed up by a Piresesque free kick which seemed to involve most of the team standing over the ball and little else. How they are favourites I do not know. Easily the worst team to visit the meadow this year. We were not great either in the first half, in fact I would have rated Chessington United's chanes of getting a point from these two teams, good. Anyway well done especially to Howard, please do not ever put him back to right back again and Wes Daley who are playing out of their skins at present.
Richard B another Wiltshire Don
- Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 08:39:23 (PDT)

Well done lads, a great game to watch,and win,hope this is the turn around that we needed and are now going to play some exciting games, congratulations.
andyneale (a battersea don)
- Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 07:59:30 (PDT)

Fisher match video now on http://www.donsonline.co.uk/php/index.php
Strawberry (strawberry@donsonline.co.uk)
- Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 13:23:17 (PDT)

Has anyone else seen the draw for the first round proper of the FA Youth Cup? Oh dear. I suppose it had to happen eventually.
Big John
UK - Thursday, October 20, 2005 at 07:35:50 (PDT)

Hi Paul, thanks for the message on my site, believe it or not I actually didn't know. I was away at the weekend, then Philippa rang me last night after seeing your post!!
Junior (simon@everstrong.co.uk)
Mancunia, UK - Tuesday, October 18, 2005 at 04:10:26 (PDT)

The Club is there to be enjoyed so enjoy it
Nick (sbplumb.build@blueyonder.co.uk)
Morden, Surrey ENGLAND - Monday, October 17, 2005 at 10:58:55 (PDT)

Paul - If I cut and paste your address, I can see the whole table! If I use the normal table link I can only see two thirds. Thanks
Mark Leadon
- Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 13:17:33 (PDT)

Paul. Thank you
sandy
- Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 10:23:20 (PDT)

Sandy - Will tidy it up so that you can view it regularly and also add a link from the normal table page.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 08:42:38 (PDT)

Paul. For the first time I can see the whole table without any ads, THANK YOU
sandy
- Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 07:11:12 (PDT)

Mark and Sandy - Can you have a look at http://www.itmustbedons.com/0506table8x6.html and tell me if you can see all the text? if so I will add this one as well and do the formating for all the tables on this page.
Paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 03:39:29 (PDT)

Thanks Paul, What actually happens is for a split second, you can see the full table, then on the left the links appears and blocks the first part of the league on that side.
Mark Leadon
- Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 14:27:24 (PDT)

King's Lynn video on http://www.donsonline.co.uk/php/index.php
Strawberry (strawberry@donsonline.co.uk)
- Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 14:17:55 (PDT)

Sandy & Mark and anyone else, i havent changed anything in the past week but as i offered will tomorrow set up a table just for people who have a 800 by 600 screen resolution.
paul Raymond (webmaster@itmustbedons.com)
Tooting, London England - Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 11:38:06 (PDT)

Paul. I have the same problem as Mark
sandy
- Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 11:30:01 (PDT)

Paul - No, I dont think so! At the moment, I can read for instance & Richmond for the top team. We are LEDON instead of afc wimbledon. its better than before though as last week you couldnt see it at all.
Mark
- Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 10:44:06 (PDT)

Kings Lynn are drafting in a Conference player especially for tomorrows game: "Sunderland-born left-sided player and ex-Nottingham Forest trainee Hodgson (26) was with Taylor at Darlington. Taylor said: "He's little, about Danny Bloomfield's height, can play on the left or right and doesn't mind drifting in or play behind a front two." http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=993&ArticleID=1222457
Rick
- Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:56:37 (PDT)